Trans Athlete Severely Injures Girls Volleyball Player With Spike — District Forfeits Games For Girl

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  1. Polydectes

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    Males shouldn't compete with females and tests of strength or agility.

    You have no arguments you can't argue against mine. I'm dominating you.
     
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    The argument against that, is that the hormonal treatment for a prolonged period hit the strength of the males like a truck.
    The OC finds it fair that transgenders can compete with females like that.
    The OC who has a fast knowledge about sports, hormones and drugs
    And you have no argument against that.
     
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  3. Polydectes

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    Yeah hormone suppressants over a few months doesn't magically change male into female.

    I just destroyed you with an argument against that.
     
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    Aha full circle!

    Nobody ever said it would turn males in females.
    You still got no argument.

    This is about having a fair competition and the OC says this can be done with a hormonal treatment.
     
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    Yeah full circle it's like you don't realize you've had it.

    If they're still males they shouldn't compete in feats of strength or agility with females.

    When a male competes with a female it's not a Fair competition that's why they created female sports in the first place.

    Hormonal suppressants do not undo puberty and muscle gain and height and strength.
     
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    So your sticking with your Appeal to Authority fallacy. One of the major factors in a powerful strike is the angle of attack. Males are on average five inches taller than females. This, along with the ability to jump, is why female nets are lower than male nets. How many inches do you believe boys shrink in height when hormone therapy is applied?
     
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    This is...gibberish. Look, I get it: having nothing else to stand on, you now resort to victim-blaming. As I noted, there is no bottom with you.

    That's a lie.

    That's another lie.

    And yet more lies. You have no idea what you are blathering about. You don't know that you don't know what you don't know. Stop embarrassing yourself.
     
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    Stop lying.
    I sourced the hormonal treatment hits like a truck.
     
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    They have sound logic. I sourced it. So your claim it's an "appeal to authority fallacy" isn't true.
    An hormonal treatment hits transgenders strength like a truck. That include the ability to jump high. And there is no length discrimination in volleyball or other sports. There is a picture of the US basketball women vs El Salvador, where the American women are towering over their opponents by well over a foot on average. It's "fair".
     
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    I sourced it's true.
     
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    You deflected and made fairly-pathetic appeals to authority. Again.

    You don't know that you don't know what you don't know.
     
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    And the US women have a huge advantage as they can hit down hard into the El Salvadoran women as opposed to hitting out and across the net. Simple physics which you are denying. Five inches is huge in volleyball. A man has a natural advantage which hormone treatment cannot remove.
     
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    I sourced a medical journal that a total lack of testosteron hits strength, stamina, bone density etc etc etc. You're free to debunk that with your own source. So far there is nothing but you anonymous whining LGBTQ+ hating lot expressing your personal opinion. And that's how I won the argument like last week.
     
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    WHAT?? I was the one who told you this! With that I acknowledge the difference in the first place!! lol
    I showed you that this is totally accepted difference in sports to have and exploit, while you are in denial.
     
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    Bone structure: men are larger.
    Lung capacity: men's are MUCH larger.
    Upper-body development during puberty: men are MUCH stronger.

    You won nothing, instead using distractions, appeals to authority, and personal attacks against anyone disagreeing with you, then proclaiming victory.
     
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    So now you acknowledge that with or without hormone therapy, boys have a huge natural advantage over girls in volleyball including the ability to strike the ball down harder into their opponents. They need to kick that effeminate boy off the girls' volleyball team.
     
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    It doesn't matter at all being a hormone suppressant for a year doesn't make men into women.
     
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    Nobody cares that the women US basketball team is like a foot taller/larger than the team from El Salvador. It's all fair.
    Besides, I already sourced that prolonged hormonal treatment adds weight. So you won't be jumping that high.

    Already sourced that prolonged hormonal treatment gives you low energy levels.
    So besides adding weight, you're stamina gets low. So you can breath whatever, you won't keep up.

    Prolonged hormonal treatment,... hits muscle mass.
    So besides more weight, less stamina... you also become weaker.
    An other side effect is insomnia.

    I sourced the above 5 pages ago, that's where I won the discussion.
    This is just regurgitating what already has been posted.
     
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    If men have a hormonal treatment for a prolonged period of time, their stamina drops, they gain weight, and lose muscle mass and even bone mass.
    So your idea that they can hit harder, is not proven as far as I regard it.

    While how tall people are, is not a thing that is a discriminatory theme in sports.
    People frankly laugh when they see the El Salvador women basketball team, play against the US women who are a like feet taller.
    There simply isn't any kind of league for shorter or taller people. There is a weight thing in boxing etc, but not height.
     
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    The point has been to make a fair competition. And a hormonal treatment makes it a fair competition when men have a certain dead low testosteron levels, according to an institute who knows everything about sports, hormones, cheating and fairness.

    Your point about not turning men into women, is irrelevant.
     
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    It didn't make a fair competition. Males have more muscle density than females.

    They way to make it fair is no males compete with females regardless of identity.
     
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    I have told you countless of times that I already sourced that it aint the case with a hormonal treatment, besides that it adds weight, decreases their stamina, drops their bone density, gives insomnia.
     
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    It is the case. The difference between males and females isn't strictly hormonal. Claiming that it is, is absurd.
     
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    This is again your "it doesn't change men into women" argument, which is irrelevant.
    The point has been to make a fair competition. And it does according to the OC.
     
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    Just because it destroys your position doesn't mean it's irrelevant. Your ideology is untenable as it ignores reality.

    It doesn't.
     

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