Transgender surgery is now free for military, thanks to Biden executive order

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  1. MJ Davies

    MJ Davies Well-Known Member

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    How do you know this? You claim to have seen/heard it but don't seem willing to explain why billions of others weren't granted that privilege.
     
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    Again, what you describe sounds like mental illness

    I fully support your choice to believe whatever you wish — but saying “the vail that was placed over our minds was removed for you” in an argument is just absurd.

    You really should go back and read what you wrote but imagine you are talking to someone who believes in Zeus.
     
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    I did. Based on where you were born, you have or have not access to the gospel of Jesus Christ and the saving ordinances performed only by those with proper authority. There were centuries that passes by with no priesthood authority to perform the ordinances. The world was so wicked that complete apostacy prevailed.

    So, why do you not know this? You claim to know the complete truth about the universe from all 4 corners and above and below. You know what exists in other dimensions within our universe too. So, why do you not know there is a God unless you are god. After all, you know everything.
     
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    Nope, not at all. The ones with mental illness are those who refuse to believe in a very obvious God of our fathers. There is a mental illness that prevents some people from knowing the existence of God. It's called pride.
     
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    So, what you're saying is your ALL-KNOWING, ALL PERFECT god created billions of people that have no clue of his *true* gospel (the one you believe in?). Why? Personal entertainment?

    I won't respond to your second paragraph because it's nonsense that I never said.
     
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    We will just have to disagree. The symptoms you list are the basis for several mental illnesses — not seeing things that are not there are not...

    As easily as you dismiss other religions, that is how easily yours is dismissed.
     
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    But, but, but...those other X (insert flavor of religion/god) aren't the "true" one! /s
     
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    Let's try to get back on topic please.
     
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    Feel free to make people trying to shove their fairy tales down our throats in every topic stop and maybe we can.

    Good luck
     
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    We were all there in a great council in heave when our Father and Jehovah presented this plan. He said that we could not progress to receive the same opportunities he has as our Father unless we go to the earth, receive our bodies and then by faith keep His laws and commandments. That is the way Father gained his position as God of His universe. At no time did he force any of us to come. In that pre-earth life, we had our free moral agency to choose for ourselves. However, there are consequences to our choices even here on earth. One could be a path to Eternal Life through faith find the correct and only path to the Tree of Life through Jesus Christ. Why? Because Father knew we would not be able to be perfect and we would make mistakes and sin. So, he told us that a Savior would be provided for us that if we repent, our sins would be washed clean through the Savior's atonement. We were told that a vail would be placed over our minds so we would not remember our pre-earth life like we remember things here on earth. That way, we would be able to be led by the Light of Christ and the Holy Ghost to know there is good and evil and we have a choice. So, this was for our benefit to come to know our abilities and limitations. Life would be hard and challenging. We would all be tested so we have choices of free will and free moral agency. Some would have more or less but all would have the ability to overcome their challenges if they rely on God and his methods. This is the only way to gain Eternal Life and Eternal Marriage and be able to inherit all the our Father has or in other words, gain our own universes and procreate the continuance of our Father in Heaven.

    The key is you chose to come here. You have been given some information to study, meditate and pray on to receive your own testimony of all of this. I cannot do that for you. I am not the Holy Ghost. We all must gain our own testimonies. We cannot gain Eternal Life on borrowed testimonies. The Plan is perfect. Now, Lucifer (Satan) didn't like the Plan. He didn't like it that he'd have to go to the earth and be tempted and may fail. He wanted the Father to give him the glory and fame to send us to earth but be led through the word completely safe with no bad experiences an no faith building experiences so that we all could return to heaven and gain Eternal Life. No free will and no free moral agency to choose for yourself good or evil. The tenants of Communism/Socialism are much the same except can not work when lead by human beings with base desires for power and tyranny. Communism, along with socialism and fascism, is a microcosm of Lucifer's war in heaven when Father rejected Lucifer's plan. Lucifer and a third of our brothers and sisters were sent out of heaven without a chance of receiving a physical human body and used to test the rest of us as we come to the earth with directing some to reign with blood and horror. So, how are you doing?
     
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    And, you have that choice. This is what is known as free moral agency that the Godhead has given to us. We had it prior to coming to the earth and receiving our physical bodies. We have it here on earth. Although, it's Satan's (Lucifer) plan to try and take this away through tyranny, pride, hatred towards the people of God and other methods. What he has given us are prophets and apostles to be messengers to give us his laws and commandments as a path back to him with Eternal Life.
    Matthew and Thomas were much like you. They required physical and logical evidence of the existence of God and Jesus Christ as the Messiah and the one who would atone for our sins. They needed that empirical evidence, like you. The difference is that they did understand the OT and knew that it would take faith to come to the gift of the Holy Ghost so that they would know. Thomas needed the Lord to appear after his death and he did so. Even with that, Thomas pretty much strayed from the teachings through the prophet Peter and the other apostles who by faith received messages and visions to teach the people the true Gospel. So, you are today's Doubting Thomas and I'm today's Matthew, Mark, Luke and John.
     
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    In your world, a supreme being made some clay children and gave them the world completely devoid of any ideas about how to navigate it and set up a maze that he KNEW would cause them to get lost and they get to endure all kinds of pain and sorrow before being thrust into a sky courtroom where they will be told what crappy people they were and punished for all eternity. And, the one "get out jail free" card couldn't even keep himself from being nailed to a cross.

    Does that sound like a loving Father to you?

    I took the liberty of editing your post...See how ridiculous it sounds?

    We were all there in a great council in heave when our PURPLE POPSICLES and RED POPSICLES presented this plan. He said that we could not progress to receive the same opportunities he has as our PURPLE POPSICLES unless we go to the earth, receive our bodies and then by faith keep His laws and commandments. That is the way PURPLE POPSICLES gained his position as God of His universe. At no time did he force any of us to come. In that pre-earth life, we had our free moral agency to choose for ourselves. However, there are consequences to our choices even here on earth. One could be a path to Eternal Life through faith find the correct and only path to the Tree of Life through PURPLE POPSICLES Christ. Why? Because PURPLE POPSICLES knew we would not be able to be perfect and we would make mistakes and sin. So, he told us that a Savior would be provided for us that if we repent, our sins would be washed clean through the Savior's atonement. We were told that a vail would be placed over our minds so we would not remember our pre-earth life like we remember things here on earth. That way, we would be able to be led by the PURPLE POPSICLES and the PURPLE POPSICLES to know there is good and evil and we have a choice. So, this was for our benefit to come to know our abilities and limitations. Life would be hard and challenging. We would all be tested so we have choices of free will and free moral agency. Some would have more or less but all would have the ability to overcome their challenges if they rely on God and his methods. This is the only way to gain Eternal Life and Eternal Marriage and be able to inherit all the our PURPLE POPSICLES has or in other words, gain our own universes and procreate the continuance of our PURPLE POPSICLES in Heaven.

    The key is you chose to come here. You have been given some information to study, meditate and pray on to receive your own testimony of all of this. I cannot do that for you. I am not the PURPLE POPSICLES. We all must gain our own testimonies. We cannot gain Eternal Life on borrowed testimonies. The Plan is perfect. Now, ORANGE POPSICLES (Satan) didn't like the Plan. He didn't like it that he'd have to go to the earth and be tempted and may fail. He wanted the PURPLE POPSICLES to give him the glory and fame to send us to earth but be led through the word completely safe with no bad experiences an no faith building experiences so that we all could return to heaven and gain Eternal Life. No free will and no free moral agency to choose for yourself good or evil. The tenants of Communism/Socialism are much the same except can not work when lead by human beings with base desires for power and tyranny. Communism, along with socialism and fascism, is a microcosm of ORANGE POPSICLES's war in heaven when PURPLE POPSICLES rejected ORANGE POPSICLES's plan. ORANGE POPSICLES and a third of our brothers and sisters were sent out of heaven without a chance of receiving a physical human body and used to test the rest of us as we come to the earth with directing some to reign with blood and horror. So, how are you doing?
     
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    Your proselytizing isn’t warranted and will not be acknowledged.

    If you want to discuss the topic without superstition and religious opinion we can do so — if not we can part ways
     
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    Why do you continuously use the quote feature incorrectly?

    You can believe in all the fairy tales you want.
     

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