Trio of Dem senators considering vote to acquit Trump

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    Bolton would have started a world war if Trump had not wisely deep-sixed him.
     
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    Thanks!

    What gets me is that I know of no connections between him and RUSSIA!, but he has received $millions of Chinese money.
     
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    Biden can ONLY plea the 5th Amendment if asked questions about the Ukraine. Otherwise, it would implicate Obama and put credibility behind the Biden claim that Obama was all over the billion dollar shake down.
     
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    The Russians provided some of the money through the Latvia bank transfer that ended up in the Burisma Cyprus accounts.

    Koch-Glitsch Italia was paid by Burisma and the Russians accommodated Burisma by lowering the debt structure while Biden and others skimmed the rest of the money from the US debt relief package.

    Where do you think Obama got most of his cash BEFORE he left the White House and Rienzi before he departed in Italy?
     
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    Impeachment without removal is like tits on a boar hog. Worthless.
     
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    I don't think that you're following this particular line of the discussion.

    It's about Mitch McConnell and the "Moscow Mitch" label.
     
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    hmmm maybe an anti corruption Ukrainian president was elected in 2019? Try to keep up.
     
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    AZ isn't a liberal state.
     
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    Not for Trump, as Dershowitz pointed out the other night.

    However, this could be a massive problem for the Bidens and Democrats.

    The good news is if Sanders gets their nomination for president, Dems will no longer have to pretend they're not a bunch of socialists...
     
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    I never thought I'd see the day when so many Americans are so unAmerican. The KGB's net is full.
     
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    I guess it was inevitable.

    The Dems were ready to go Full Retard in 1948 but our little spat with the Soviets got in the way. Now that the Cold War is over the socialist trajectory of the party can finally be fulfilled.
     
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    Not really, whatever Bolton says, it still wouldn't be reflected in the articles, which is what the Senate is actually voting on...
     
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    What! you mean to tell me that some democrat senators actually listened to the evidence or lack thereof. Astounding.
     
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    If Biden did what he bragged about doing, that would constitute an abuse of office as the Vice President. Being a rival candidate doesn't make any abuses and law breaking by him while VP above the law. Trump asked Zelenskyy to coordinate with the US Attorney General, NOT his campaign. If Biden didn't do it then there may be a case for political gain. But we won't know unless the Senate investigates during Trumps trial in the Senate. Testimony from the Biden's, Chris Heinz, Devon Archer and Adam Schiff as well as depositions by Zelensky and Shokin will be key to determining whether Trump was legitimately going after corruption or seeking to damage a political rival.
     
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    That should not be a surprise to anyone.

    This was never about what Trump did or did not do. It was always 100% about dragging Trump through the mud before an election.

    This of course makes house democratic leadership a bunch of scumbag liars.
     
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    Oh no, the Dems said it was a solid case they sent to the Senate. And if we don’t believe them, we’re co-conspirators with Trump.
     
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    Yes there is, you’ just being Progressive Liberal Democrat about it.

    Look at it this way - Burisma is a commercial enterprise and as such DOES NOT waste money. So, by paying Jr. $50k/mo, they were getting value for it. This is indisputable.

    What value were Burisma getting from a guy with no expertise in anything other than direct access to the US Government?

    Again, commercial enterprises have to get value for every Grivna spent. What legitimate value were they getting from the Jr?

    None whatsoever, which means whatever value Burisma were getting from there Jr., was illegitimate. Enter Trump stage left, looking for corruption.
     
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    After Schiff got caught in obvious lies, I am pretty sure he blew his chances to get witnesses. Even some Democrats are sick of this nonsense. They should have stood up and been real Americans when the vote was in the House, though.
     
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    In their world, you're guilty until proven innocent.
     
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    That's where you are wrong. Companies hire famous board members for many reasons. It isn't corruption.
     
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    No, that’s where you are wrong. Jr. is not famous, The VP of USA is. Why haven’t the hire him?

    Actually, they did.
     
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    The media has spent hundreds of hours hoping and speculating which Republicans would vote with the Democrats. They never spend any time asking the opposite question: which Dems will vote with the Republicans?

    It would be beyond sweet if three or four red state Dems voted against witnesses and to acquit.
     
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