Trump Administration’s Careful Afghanistan Withdrawal Plans Were Ignored by Biden

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  1. Esperance

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    https://georgiastarnews.com/2021/08...were-ignored-by-biden-former-trump-aide-says/

    The Globalists are usually happy when there is instability in certain regions of the world, but this cluster ________ may have surpassed their comfort level.

    I saw where Tony Blair has called the departure "imbecilic." Yep, many of the old players are mouthing off about the potential problems that the Biden administration has caused.

    A distraction may have been needed to scuttle the 3.5 trillion dollar Socialist legislation, but this goes beyond being a realistic and sound move to accomplish that.

    I would love to hear a phone conversation between Obama and Susan Rice.
    Does Susan Rice want to become the new VP so badly that she would cause this much of a mess?
     
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    Increments? There were only 2500 troops there when Trump left. Way past the incremental stage.
     
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    European socialist leaders can’t defend it.
    The media can’t defend it
    Democrat leaders can’t defend it

    When your only defenders are online forum warriors who haven’t yet realized they have no cards to play, you know you got serious problems.
     
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    There were troops in military bases in nearby neighboring countries. Even with only 2500 troops there, troops could have still been pumped in rather quickly if anything went wrong, maybe within 2 or 3 weeks.
    And of course air support, that could have come within a few hours.

    The Taliban didn't suddenly take over in one day. This was going on for weeks and months and Biden did nothing.

    Some of you seem to act like Trump pulled all the troops out and then the Taliban suddenly took over before Biden had a chance to stop it. That was not the case.

    No air support was sent to those military bases as they were falling. Even though the US must have known military supplies and weapons were being stored there, supplies and weapons that had originally been sent by the US.
     
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    I don't think she would purposefully sabotage Biden like this, but if you look at video of her she has a resentful expression on her face around Biden. Probably because she is the one doing all the work at the White House and actually running all the day to day things, and Biden is the one getting the recognition.
     
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    Lol plans trump was so confident in that he refused to get us out? Kicking the can and passing the buck aren’t plans.
     
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    It was clearly enough to keep the Taliban at bay until Biden decided to incrementally downsize the 2500. Biden believed he could work with the Taliban to ensure the safe passage of civilians. The US Embassy is telling everyone to stay put and not try to get to the airport. The Americans are now hostages giving the Taliban the upper hand.

    “As we continue to work the logistics of evacuation, we’re in constant contact with the Taliban working to ensure civilians have safe passage to the airport,” Biden said. “Look, we’ve made clear to the Taliban that any attack … any attack on our forces or disruption of our operation at the airport will be met with swift and forceful response,” he said, reading from the teleprompter.
     
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    Trump brought our forces down to 2500. They were left there to secure the safe passage of civilians so I'm not sure what you mean by refused to get us out.
     
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    It's amazing how much false Leftists talking points are just being spread constantly by these same Leftists. There is zero truth in their words, but they repeat their marching orders anyways. It's drone-like. It's lies like the above or the "Trump's Plan" lie that they cannot stop repeating. Leftists refuse to take responsibility for their actions. They have been conditioned that nothing their leadership does has fault. It's like Jonestown. They would willingly drink the Cool-Aide.
     
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    This may be true, but whoever said it should have been done incrementally is full of it. It should have been done differently, but 2500 is about as close to a single increment as you can get. Pulling them out one by one wouldn't have changed anything, just delayed it.
     
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    He didn’t get us out. Biden is. Trump passed the buck.
     
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    I take responsibility for voting for the guy who got us out. You voted for the guy who had 4 years and refused to do it.
     
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    Got us out? There are over 15,000 U.S. citizens stuck in areas totally controlled by the Taliban.

    The word "Imbecilic" could easily be used to describe the :chainsaw: order in which it was done...

    Meanwhile:

    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/ar...desert-raid-save-troops-Taliban.html#comments

    And our allies were pretty much bent over as well.
     
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    Biden failed to understand why 2500 troops were left in Afghanistan or he didn't care. As he started drawing down the 2500 this ill fated action emboldened the Taliban to start their take over of Afghanistan. Now Biden is scrambling to get troops back in so he can make his August 31 deadline. He won't. It's only going to get much uglier since the Americans left in Afghanistan have been told to stay where they are because it is too dangerous for them to travel to the airport. Don't count your chickens just yet as Biden has not gotten our military out yet and he has added more troops to the fray with many Americans and Afghans to get out.
     
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    The point is they shouldn't have been pulled out until all of the Americans and Afghans with visas were sent out. That was the reason for keeping 2500 troops there which Biden of course is denying he was informed of this in his eagerness to keep his word of not letting one more military soldier die in Afghanistan. He has since sent thousands more back in.
     
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    We’re getting people out. Even though we told them to get out since March…
     
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    2500 were left because Trump is a coward who refused to end it.
     
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    So why do we now have over 5000 troops back in? Seems Biden is moving our troop numbers in the wrong direction if he plans on getting them out. Oh wait he forgot we still have American citizens there which are now hostages for the Taliban to use as leverage to get what they want. Biden is not a coward he's just an idiot who thinks he's the smartest guy in the room. When this is all said and done I hope an investigation will start soon after to see where it all went wrong and punish those who are responsible. Somehow though I see Democrats circling the wagon around Joe to protect him against any wrong doing.
     
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    Trump had no plans.... but feel free to post a link to them

    during the peaceful transfer of power, Trump provided no such plans... zip, nadda
     
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    because Trump never should have reduced the troops until our people were back home safe and sound

    now, Biden shares some blame as he should have on day one sent all the troops back that Trump sent home days before Biden took office

    that was a bad thing Trump did, no President does that, and Biden should of undid that
     
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    We’ve gotten thousands out already. And they should have left months ago. Zero citizens have been killed. Of course there is chaos, after 20 years their army is still completely useless.
     
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    Biden is indefensible on this. It only took 6 moths to prove how inept this guy was.
     
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    Trump and Biden both made mistakes, both share some blame
     
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    He could have altered coarse the same way Trump did on the Iran deal. This is all him.

    He ran saying how horrible of a leader Trump was but he followed his lead anyway
     

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