Trump Administration is Advancing Class Warfare Against Us

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  1. Kode

    Kode Well-Known Member

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    So you admit you lied when you said "You criticized others for being just like you"? You're saying you had no evidence and just fantasized it and then attacked me for your fantasy?

    I developed business systems software, in-house, as a member of the IT staff for various companies.
     
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    Media_Truth Well-Known Member Donor

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    I'd say the fact that Carl Icahn is a special advisor to the Administration makes it totally supportable. Since he is not a part of the Administration, he can advise, and then follow up with personal investments, which he has done. The 1 percenters thank you for your support.
     
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    Helpful select hints to fend off such urges to fly off into fantasy land :
    Review Quiz:
    According to U.S. Law and where no union is present -

    Who dictates workplace rules and conditions?
    A. The employee
    B. The employer
     
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    These Obama policies contributed to the pathetic economic performance of ~ 1% growth (adjusted for inflation and population growth). That is clearly where the attack on the middle and low income classes hits. The upper income quintiles have accumulated wealth. It is the lower quintiles which are deprived of economic growth to ascend to the upper quintiles by such low rates of economic growth. The class warfare has been carried out by Obama economic policies.
     
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    Hahaha!

    Knock, knock... Hello?... Obama's out, Trump is in, time to move on, ya think?
    Bit late to impeach impeach Obama. Meet the new boss...
     
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  6. Kode

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    The class warfare has been carried out by both parties in favor of capitalism, and in an economy based on and dependent on class structure, it is indigenous to the system.
     
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    Of course you do.
    However, those of us w/o predetermined outcomes rattling about in our heads tend to think more critically as to what constitutes sound support for a claim.
     
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    Doofenshmirtz Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Nice dodge attempt, but no. I had no evidence, so I asked and you provided it. My personal feeling is that you deserved to earn more and deserve the assets you accumulated. All this means is that criticizing others for doing the same thing makes you a hypocrite on this particular issue. That's all. Simple and obvious to all. Its class warfare unless you are the one doing it.
     
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    Allow me. See Kode, you provided the personal feeling ("evidence") by responding to the personal question that was obviously troll bait and none of his damned business. Reap what you sow, amiright?
     
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    Doofenshmirtz Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    You are incorrect. My feeling has nothing to do with the evidence he provided. The attacker was exposed as a hypocrite. We got the message. Share the wealth, but not mine.
     
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    That says it all. You poor, poor victim.
     
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    The attack was not against me. It was against a group that he ended up admitting to being a part of. If you would like to defend the position of making everyone that earns less, a victim of class warfare, please feel free. If you earn minimum wage and have accumulated no assets, I even understand your position.
     
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    Thank you for continuing to prove my point.
     
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    Capitalism has done more to improve the standard of living of every economic class than any other system which explains the overwhelming move from gov command & control systems to free market capitalism economic systems.
     
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    So you accuse/believe I "attacked a group that (I am) part of". I have absolutely NO IDEA what you're referring to and that is why I asked you to clarify and actually present the evidence, but you still haven't. For starters, what group would that be?

    You also believe I want to "make everyone that earns less, a victim of class warfare". Again, I have absolutely NO IDEA what you're referring to and that is why I asked you to clarify and actually present the evidence, but you still haven't.

    And somehow, you relate this to "earning a minimum wage" and "having no accumulated assets" and you declare "understanding". Again, I have absolutely NO IDEA what you're referring to and that is why I asked you to clarify and actually present the evidence, but you still haven't.

    It does appear that you may be a troll.
     
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    I never said it didn't.

    huh?
     
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    huh? ^^ says it all. Read "The Commanding Heights" and learn.
     
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    Amazing to see voting against your interest in action. Your family has been paid a good wage with worker protections because of unions and you can't wait to take a crap on them. You'd rather your family be working in a chinese sweatshop?
     
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    No thanks. I'll stick with the position of not having to make things up to argue with myself about as I go along. Much simpler. More straightforward. Honest. Sane.
     
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    Name's "Tijuana" - so likely one in the maquiladoras.
     
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    It's always amazed me that those on the left do not understand that unions driving up wages and the cost of labor above market settings results in increases in unemployment. This is evident by the recent analysis of the increases in minimum wage in Seattle. As evident by the comment above the left never considers that a person might forego personal gain for the good of many. Just another nail in the coffin of the left's lack of understanding of economics and the basic empathy of some humans.


    http://www.seattletimes.com/business/uw-study-finds-seattles-minimum-wage-is-costing-jobs/
     
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    Ask some of us who have a wide range of experience.

    I have worked in unions and out of them. I have paid wages to workers in my various companies during my life. I have received benefits and paid them.

    Here is the problem with unions. The least qualified to manage companies gets a huge voice. Were they excellent managers, maybe then it would help the company and this translates into helping the workers as well. But they are not excellent managers. They are unionists.

    When I opened the machine shop, benefits were not on my mind. I was also a dues paying member of local 34 in pile driving and saw what little benefits there were for union members. I got no medical in the pile drivers union. I did not really see me paying medical for machine shop workers.

    However, I was then a compassionate Democrat voter. I decided to hold a meeting with my workers in my machine shop to see if they would be willing to put part of their wages into a health plan. I would match them and join them to help my own family.

    I won't belabor the point but it hurt the shop. We had no guarantees of work from any customer. We depended on industrial customers to keep the doors open. My customers were companies most of you never heard of. The typical street person never showed up to buy our services. I had one Jaguar owner who did have me create a new system for him to use an American oil filter for his car, but for him, nothing.

    My customer base was highly sensitive to the nations economy. This prompted me in fact to study economics. i had to know my limits.

    Well we hit a shallow spot in the stream so to speak and it beached the boat. I laid off the help. They got no benefits.
     
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    NBER supporters - oh my, what compassionate bunch, lol.
    Lol. Try stamping out underemployment, sparky. The real bugaboo. As in having a "rising tide" actually lift all the boats instead of just the yachts.
     
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    And soon went out of business as most small businesses do in this country. Nice try. Your private bigger fish competitors were likely far more your enemy and undoing than any union ever was - due to their unfair advantages in the "free" market.
     
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