Trump and friends don't care if we live or die

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  1. Sleep Monster

    Sleep Monster Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Trump admin response to the spreading coronavirus:

    "It's under control."
    "It's airtight, or almost airtight."

    Right. We shouldn't worry, eh? Wrong.

    https://foreignpolicy.com/2020/01/3...ited-states-public-health-emergency-response/

    "In the spring of 2018, the White House pushed Congress to cut funding for Obama-era disease security programs, proposing to eliminate $252 million in previously committed resources for rebuilding health systems in Ebola-ravaged Liberia, Sierra Leone, and Guinea. Under fire from both sides of the aisle, President Donald Trump dropped the proposal to eliminate Ebola funds a month later. But other White House efforts included reducing $15 billion in national health spending and cutting the global disease-fighting operational budgets of the CDC, NSC, DHS, and HHS. And the government’s $30 million Complex Crises Fund was eliminated."

    Read the whole article. Here's more:

    https://www.cbsnews.com/live-update...ll-infections-latest-news-updates-2020-02-25/

    https://www.nationalgeographic.com/science/2020/02/here-is-what-coronavirus-does-to-the-body/

    Trump is scheduled to speak about this today at 6 p.m. ET. I hear he's planning to throw a couple of billion taxpayer dollars at the problem, which won't help unless a vaccine is created, and wouldn't be necessary if he hadn't gutted the CDC's funding and completely rid us of the coordinated response groups created by Obama in 2014 in response to the ebola outbreak. He did so as part of his work in minimizing the huge deficit brought on by his tax break for the rich.

    Be afraid. Be very afraid. Trump does not care about you, or me, or any of us. He only cares about himself and getting re-elected.
     
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    spiritgide Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    So you are saying we will be better off if we all promote fear and hate..... and blame the president.
    I've been waiting for someone on your side of the fence to try and make a direct connection here, claim Trump had the virus created to destroy the world or something.
    You didn't quite make it. Try again?
     
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    As a result of the Ebola virus President Obama initiated several different departments in our government to handle any future medical outbreaks that were similar to the Ebola virus. Naturally, since Obama formed them trump has dissolved them. Now the poor idiot has no idea what to do or say.
     
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    It was not that long ago that democrats were claiming that trump was over reacting.
     
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    lemmiwinx Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    It's just another bat-pig-human flu going around. Keep away from Asian people or people who've been to Asia and you'll be fine.
     
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    We've known that there were viruses for a long while now. A new department is not needed each time a new virus rears its ugly profile.

    I assume that the smart people already charged with taking charge of viruses can keep up with the new science, adapt, and improvise as needed.
     
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    Trump and friends don't care if we live or die

    Do us both a favor and stop using the hyperbolic rhetoric of the left to gain attention for yourself. It's become boring.
     
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    Sleep Monster Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Which part do you not get here?

    In 2014, in response to the ebola outbreak, the Obama administration created a vast network for agencies like the CDC, NIH, WHO, and others to coordinate efforts, track viruses, educate the people on how to protect themselves, coordinate vaccine efforts, and so forth. It was a monumental effort.

    Trump dismanted that entire network and gutted the budgets for the CDC and NIH.

    No, of course Trump didn't create the virus, he simply made it next to impossible for our agencies to respond in any kind of effective way. And he is downplaying the danger simply to stop the bleeding in the stock markets, because what could possibly be more important than making sure the rich keep on getting richer? Certainly not your life or mine.

    Why do you insist on excusing every effed up thing this president does or says? Good grief, when will Trumpsters ever learn?
     
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    Sleep Monster Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    New department? We HAD a network of agencies to respond to things like this, created by Obama. So OF COURSE Trump had to dismantle that network and cut funding for any new efforts.

    Read the article. Or google it for yourself if you don't like my source, but for your own sake, stop making excuses for this idiot of a president! And maybe buy yourself some masks and gloves while they're still available. To quote a Talking Heads song:

    "This ain't no party
    This ain't no disco
    This ain't no fooling around"
     
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    Exactly what did Trump do to make it next to impossible for our agencies to respond in any kind of effective way? They are quarantining those who were exposed and limiting travel to virus areas. There is not much more that can be done at this point.
     
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    Demonstrate this to be true.
    Demonstrate this to be true.
     
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    Demonstrate this to be true.
     
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    Sleep Monster Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    For myself? Dude, I created this thread for you! This virus will spread in this country, all experts past and present agree on that, and Trump has dismantled and cut funding for the only agencies that could help us deal with it. He's downplaying the danger in a vain effort to keep the stock markets from crashing. Money is more important than your life and mine. Get a damn clue, will ya? My thread title is not hyperbolic, it's factual. Stock up on masks and gloves, because there will be a run on them. And no, my name is not Chicken Little.
     
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    Yes.
    Your boring use of the hyperbolic rhetoric of the left -must- be an attempt to gain attention for yourself, as it cannot possibly be taken seriously by thinking, reasoned people.
    You cannot demonstrate this to be true.
     
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    Look around, its not spreading in America at the rates its spreading in many other countries. What Trump is doing is not creating a panic and allowing the CDC to handle this in an unobtrusive way. Not that it matters, no matter what Trump's response liberals will whine. Its like you folks are asking him to send CDC to airports in hazmat suits, and if he did you'd complain he's a dictator and fear mongering. Rational people don't have a problem with Trump's response because they see the results, which is limited spread even though this country has some of the busiest airports in the world...
     
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    No, no - he HATES us.
     
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    Read the link in the OP. Or:

    https://nymag.com/intelligencer/202...the-trump-admins-response-to-coronavirus.html

    "In May 2018, Trump ordered the NSC’s entire global health security unit shut down, calling for reassignment of Rear Adm. Timothy Ziemer and dissolution of his team inside the agency. The month before, then-White House National Security Advisor John Bolton pressured Ziemer’s DHS counterpart, Tom Bossert, to resign along with his team. Neither the NSC nor DHS epidemic teams have been replaced. The global health section of the CDC was so drastically cut in 2018 that much of its staff was laid off and the number of countries it was working in was reduced from 49 to merely 10. Meanwhile, throughout 2018, the U.S. Agency for International Development and its director, Mark Green, came repeatedly under fire from both the White House and Secretary of State Mike Pompeo. And though Congress has so far managed to block Trump administration plans to cut the U.S. Public Health Service Commissioned Corps by 40 percent, the disease-fighting cadres have steadily eroded as retiring officers go unreplaced."

    Google it for yourself.
     
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    Sleep Monster Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Bummer for you. Keep your head buried in the sand. What Trump did in 2018 to our ability to respond to a pandemic was petty and extremely unwise at best. Petty because it was an Obama effort that created our response network in 2014, and he just can't have Obama getting credit for anything good.

    Trump is sooo not trying to prevent a panic anywhere other than the stock market, and is trying to stay in denial because he doesn't want his incompetent people to fudge a pandemic response in an election year. When will Trumpsters learn that it's all about him? He doesn't give one tiny shyte about your life.
     
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    Horse pucky. He doesn't hate us, he simply doesn't value us past our votes.
     
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    That's a lot of assumptions, and lacks any knowledge of how quickly and dangerously viruses can spread in today's world.
     
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    Here's what I noticed. When Ebola was a thing the right went nuts complaining about how little Obama was doing about Ebola. The world was gonna die. Now we have the Corona Virus and the left is going nuts complaining about how little Trump is doing about it and the world is gonna die.
     
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    So, you admit, your source does not prove your claim.
    Thanks.
     
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    He will read whatever is on his teleprompter.
     
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    You cannot demonstrate this to be true.
     
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