Trump and religious liberty -- Militant atheists have met their match with our president

Go to Meeting before you get drunk at least one day, you heathen.

 

and liberals. Burke is good instruction on how to be conservative without becoming stodgy or hidebound

 

Me either. I still follow a modified six literal day creation and rest that makes our 7 day week to this day, though I’m not young earth because I don’t believe the whole universe was created when our earth was but was already there then. Only our solar system was created with our earth and man. Also a reading of Genesis One makes it clear that the core of the earth was already present at creation week and the rocks and core under the waters of the deep could have been here billions of years before God made his final creation here.

 

Why don't their parents instruct them in such matters? Why the government? Why would you even want government involved in it?

 

He was there representing the government school..............end of story.

 

The political and bureaucratic elite claim to be servants of the people. Servants look to those they serve, not to line their own pockets. They are imposters and whores. They are the elite and they cover for one another. Big money influences are just business concerns looking after their business. So what. I look after my business. It is not large by any means but if I can take advantage of any loophole these whores give to line their own pockets, I will. If I don't, I lose.

 

I am sure a haughty ego finds it very difficult to imagine anything larger than itself.

 

You really do not understand our pay to play system. This is not about tax loopholes - this is about directing foreign and domestic policy - and owning the political and bureaucratic elite.

 

What a lot of silly nonsense. Trump champions nothing. Trump only cares about himself, and his ego---Nothing else. He would say and do anything, if it focuses only on his name, or his image. This has been his whole life. If Trump took a dump on the White House lawn, his people would only label him as a true environmentalist. His appeal is certainly NOT among critical thinkers. He would be the last narcissistic sociopath on this planet, that I would look to as my moral compass. My country not only protects its citizen's freedom OF religion, but also their freedom FROM religion. Atheist, do not simply NOT believe in the existence of any God(s), they simply believe that there is NO OBJECTIVE EVIDENCE for them to believe in a God(s). If anyone could provide just one proven miracle, just one proven act of divine intervention, just one proven example of the power of prayer, or just one proven example of any paranormal event, or any event that is outside of the laws of physics, then there would be no Atheist today. But, even IF God, Jesus, the Holy Ghost, Allah, Mohammed, or the tens of thousands of other religious deities told their followers, that their religion is a culture-specific, man-made, man-inspired, man-compiled, man-edited, man-written, and man-contracted, book of fables and stories for children and the ignorant, religious fundi's would still never budge from their beliefs. How many lives have been ruined, or lost, because of an imaginary social conception, and a contrived/conceptual insecurity need?

Secular beliefs, simply are beliefs that are not bound by any religious beliefs or rules. It is a belief that is more an exclusion and an indifference to religion, that a rejection of religion. Secularists focus their attention to the real material needs of people, not their spiritual or religious needs. Without these truly humanitarian organizations of true altruism, our society would truly be up a creek. The insidious spread of religion only breeds intolerance, elitism, separatism, dependency, insecurity, a loss of innocence(child religious indoctrinations), a loss of curiosity, and a life wasted in pious servitude. How could anyone believe, that a life of religious servitude would allow any biological organism to live forever? Especially, without any objective evidence to support it. This is a scam of global proportion. It exploits and preys on the certainty of death. Think about it, if humans could live forever, there would be NO religions at all.

If anyone wants to believe that how they think, how they behave, and who they serve, should be based on an unprovable lie, then that is their business. If anyone wants to pattern their lives in service to a foreign book of inconsistencies, wanton violence, lies, jealousies, impossible promises(life after death), fantasies and fairytales, then that is also their business. But praising the panderer and purveyor of religious nonsense, is intellectually insulting. Why should there be a prayer day on Thursday? Do you think that business owners should have the legal right to openly discriminate against women, Jews, Minority Americans, LGBTQ, or anyone else that their religious beliefs says? These are the executive orders, that Trump has championed, under the guise of religious liberty. This is the self-serving projecting, and anti-social validation, that appeals to the real Trump supporters. If they don't like us, look like us, act like us, or don't want to be like us, THEN THEY MUST BE BAD. We are always right, and they are always wrong.

So, WHAT specifically are the religious liberties that are under threat? How are the 16% Atheists/secularists, threatening the religious freedoms of the other 84% believers? How much more religious liberties do you want? How much more religion do you want to force down my throat? Why can't you use the religious liberties you have, and practice them yourself? Why do you need to force/indoctrinate others to practice them in our Government, in our schools, indoctrinate our kids, in our courts, in our workplace, in our recreation, and even in our sciences? If you are silly enough to believe in an invisible extra-dimensional sky-daddy figure, that will watch over you in life, and in death, then that is your business. But complaining that spreading your nonsense, and trampling over my freedom FROM your religious practices and beliefs, only exercises the same level of intolerance as the insane leader you follow.

So stop fear mongering, and provide evidence. I certainly would ignore anything out of the mouth of any FOX news contributor, especially Mike Huckabee. Wonder why he was not supported by the moral majority, instead of Trump? Maybe, it was because of his religious beliefs, that he was not a better liar than Trump. Maybe, all celebrities who peddle in lies and dreams, should start lining up for the Office. Since the public can't tell the difference between substance and theatre, or between fact and fantasy.

Also, what is a militant Atheist? Someone that actually questions the hive beliefs, and asks for evidence? What is the militant actions of these people looking for the truth?​

 

I don't think it matters at all how God decided to make the Universe, just that it was God that decided, and there is no way to tell that. It's a matter of Faith

 

Edmund Burke was on the other side of the fence from Locke. He was also on the other side of the fence from Thomas Jefferson and Adam Smith.

 

Because the state as a whole can benefit in such matters.

 

No way to tell, but a sure way to experience.

 

Why does it benefit more it government workers do it instead of parents? You really want a government religion? What if the teacher in the class is Hindu or atheist. What about all the different views of the students?

 

your agreement has no bearing on reality. The US constitution is the only thing that governs all law in the US. The DOI has exactly zero legal weight.

 

I accept your concession.

 

So it will be many many generations before a human can say one species changes into another.

 

Not according to the information presented you - information that you avoided addressing - so I will go back to talking to the wall.

Repetition of premise - is not proof of claim.

 

Never said it did.

If you go back to my original question, you’d see that I wasn’t talking about the government being based on any particular religion.

 

You're the one saying government should stipulate students should engage in prayer and meditation, why would you want government employees directing that?

 

Yeah, but he had the Schwartz.

 

You realize that metaphysics is just pseudoscience?

 

Maybe you should start with understanding the meaning of scientific theory.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scientific_theory

 

Nothing you've presented has contradicted anything I've said. The DOI has exactly as much legal weight as the 2nd harry potter book titled "the chamber of secrets". The constitution is the law of the land.