Trump Calls Allies to Demand Gen. Mark Milley Be ‘Arrested’ for ‘Treason’

Discussion in 'Current Events' started by Arkanis, Sep 15, 2021.

  1. Talon

    Talon Well-Known Member Past Donor

    Joined:
    Dec 4, 2008
    Messages:
    40,483
    Likes Received:
    19,166
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Male
    He's a hero to the Left that has put its TDS before our country and Constitution.
     
    AmericanNationalist likes this.
  2. AmericanNationalist

    AmericanNationalist Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Aug 28, 2013
    Messages:
    35,771
    Likes Received:
    16,998
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Male
    'Invasion of the Capitol' by rioting Americans. God, listen to yourselves for five minutes. It was a surprise and certainly an unwelcome one, but as the old saying goes: Rumors of our demise were greatly exaggerated. The event is over, it's been over for 8 months now. The comparisons to Pearl Harbor and 9/11, both distasteful and utterly out of scale with what actually happened.

    It's these fantasies that will have people afraid of things that don't exist, and it's these fantasies that are in hundreds of Roman leagues of the means to kill us all.
     
    glitch likes this.
  3. flyboy56

    flyboy56 Well-Known Member Past Donor

    Joined:
    Oct 17, 2013
    Messages:
    8,413
    Likes Received:
    1,936
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Male
    Warning an enemy of a possible attack by the US is not going agains the interest of ones country? This has been done several times by the US but not by a general. The US will warn countries of an imminent attack in the hopes the country stops doing whatever prompted a reason to attack. Are you saying the attack the general warned China of was imminent?
     
  4. Aleksander Ulyanov

    Aleksander Ulyanov Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Mar 9, 2013
    Messages:
    33,829
    Likes Received:
    12,673
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Male
    He told his people to tell him first. He didn't tell anybody to obey only him. He told the Chinese that he would not let insane orders go ahead without informing them, which would prevent the Chinese doing a pre-emptive strike.

    If Milley suffers any repercussions that will place all of us a lot closer to nuclear war than we have been in quite a while, since it informs our enemies that insane orders will be obeyed without question and a pre-emptive strike is thus a viable possibility. This is something that has not even been contemplated since at least the end of the Cold War and probably even further back than that.

    Like I say, I think what a lot of Republicans actively and sincerely WANT is the End of the World, what with the Rapture being a big part of their future plans anyway.
     
    Josh77 likes this.
  5. Aleksander Ulyanov

    Aleksander Ulyanov Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Mar 9, 2013
    Messages:
    33,829
    Likes Received:
    12,673
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Male
    The Chinese might very well have seen it as being so. What Trump was doing on Jan 6 was literally insane. Are you disputing that?
     
    Last edited: Sep 16, 2021
  6. Darthcervantes

    Darthcervantes Well-Known Member Past Donor

    Joined:
    Oct 4, 2018
    Messages:
    7,591
    Likes Received:
    8,123
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Male
    Op is celebrating a person that is willing to sell out his own country and then calls him a “hero”
    Be careful folks. This is the left!
     
  7. Aleksander Ulyanov

    Aleksander Ulyanov Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Mar 9, 2013
    Messages:
    33,829
    Likes Received:
    12,673
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Male
    The Republicans want to return us to an era when children were brought up under the spectre of a war so terrible it would end all life on Earth. Some of them even actively want and promote that since it agrees with their religion

    Be careful folks, this IS the right.
     
  8. flyboy56

    flyboy56 Well-Known Member Past Donor

    Joined:
    Oct 17, 2013
    Messages:
    8,413
    Likes Received:
    1,936
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Male
    I'll substitute the word insane for crazy and yes it was a crazy thing to do but still did not give a general permission to go above his superiors and warn China. If there was an imminent attack in progress, which there never was, it is not the responsibility of a general to give the warning.
     
  9. Bush Lawyer

    Bush Lawyer Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Sep 13, 2018
    Messages:
    10,941
    Likes Received:
    6,740
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Male
    I don't see any seditious act. Why should she not, as third in line to power, make contact with that bloke and express her concerns regarding Humpty who was clearly acting, at that time, in a highly erratic and irrational state? Would you leave a lunatic alone with access to a nuke button?
     
    Statistikhengst likes this.
  10. Hoosier8

    Hoosier8 Well-Known Member Past Donor

    Joined:
    Jan 16, 2012
    Messages:
    105,454
    Likes Received:
    32,612
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gen. Mark Milley was never authorized to have secret calls with his Chinese counterpart in the final months of Donald Trump’s presidency over concerns Trump could spark a war, says former acting Secretary of Defense Christopher Miller. Milley is a liaison between the President and Secretary of Defense and has no authority over active military. He is an advisor to the President.
     
  11. Josh77

    Josh77 Well-Known Member Past Donor

    Joined:
    Dec 3, 2014
    Messages:
    7,238
    Likes Received:
    5,223
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Male
    moral action beats out authority every time.
     
  12. Hoosier8

    Hoosier8 Well-Known Member Past Donor

    Joined:
    Jan 16, 2012
    Messages:
    105,454
    Likes Received:
    32,612
    Trophy Points:
    113
    So you applaud wrongdoing but only if you agree with the wrongdoer even when they are wrong. Fascinating.
     
  13. hawgsalot

    hawgsalot Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Mar 6, 2017
    Messages:
    7,128
    Likes Received:
    6,736
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Male
    Lol Trump clearly has control over Jack as well, wow.
     
  14. Josh77

    Josh77 Well-Known Member Past Donor

    Joined:
    Dec 3, 2014
    Messages:
    7,238
    Likes Received:
    5,223
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Male
    I agree with breaking the rules and disobeying authority when it is the morally right thing to do, yes. Absolutely. What is wrong about taking precautionary steps to prevent a possible nuclear war?? This is a stupid "us against them" thing. If it was someone who liberals thought went behind Biden's back to possibly prevent a nuclear war because people thought Biden had gone insane, you would be cheering, calling the general an American hero, and calling for Biden's resignation. That's all this story is for you, is political points. I see this flip flopping on positions every time. Liberals do it too. Even preventing nuclear war is something conservatives and liberals cannot get behind, because it makes "their guy" look bad.
     
    cd8ed, jack4freedom and ChiCowboy like this.
  15. jack4freedom

    jack4freedom Well-Known Member Past Donor

    Joined:
    Oct 9, 2010
    Messages:
    19,365
    Likes Received:
    8,083
    Trophy Points:
    113
    No control at all. Now he’s just another New York loudmouth.
     
  16. drluggit

    drluggit Well-Known Member Past Donor

    Joined:
    Nov 17, 2016
    Messages:
    21,326
    Likes Received:
    18,168
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Likely, because of the disaster that is the Biden Economy, you won't be able to buy lumber, concrete, other building materials, appliances...
     
    glitch likes this.
  17. Hoosier8

    Hoosier8 Well-Known Member Past Donor

    Joined:
    Jan 16, 2012
    Messages:
    105,454
    Likes Received:
    32,612
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Because that’s simply not his job. He is basically a liaison between the President and the Secretary of Defense.

    https://www.jcs.mil/About/
     
    Last edited: Sep 16, 2021
  18. Josh77

    Josh77 Well-Known Member Past Donor

    Joined:
    Dec 3, 2014
    Messages:
    7,238
    Likes Received:
    5,223
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Male
    Lol, if he thought he had a chance at preventing nuclear war I don't give a damn if he was just the janitor.
     
    ChiCowboy likes this.
  19. Aleksander Ulyanov

    Aleksander Ulyanov Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Mar 9, 2013
    Messages:
    33,829
    Likes Received:
    12,673
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Male
    He's also a human being who was trying not to let a madman kill everything that exists
     
  20. Hoosier8

    Hoosier8 Well-Known Member Past Donor

    Joined:
    Jan 16, 2012
    Messages:
    105,454
    Likes Received:
    32,612
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Just because a general gets a hair up his ass about something stupidly fantastical does not mean he can go outside of his authority. Trump is the ONLY president not to get us into another war and is very anti-war.

    You just don’t give a damn about the law, protocol, or common sense.
     
    glitch likes this.
  21. Hoosier8

    Hoosier8 Well-Known Member Past Donor

    Joined:
    Jan 16, 2012
    Messages:
    105,454
    Likes Received:
    32,612
    Trophy Points:
    113
    What a dumb post but then some will believe every stupid thing about Trump, true or not but mostly not.
     
    glitch likes this.
  22. Hoosier8

    Hoosier8 Well-Known Member Past Donor

    Joined:
    Jan 16, 2012
    Messages:
    105,454
    Likes Received:
    32,612
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Milley had no authority to call China to warn them either. That authority comes from either the president or the Secretary of Defense of which neither authorized it. Providing aid and support to our enemies is treason.
     
    Last edited: Sep 16, 2021
  23. Josh77

    Josh77 Well-Known Member Past Donor

    Joined:
    Dec 3, 2014
    Messages:
    7,238
    Likes Received:
    5,223
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Male
    Trump doesn't care about anything but Trump. I can't believe so many conservatives have fallen for his garbage. I voted for him the first time. I realized soon afterwards what a shitty president he was. I continued to support him for a while, but he just got worse and worse. And yet he got more and more support from "conservatives", when most conservatives couldn't stand him in the primaries of his first campaign. I can't understand for the life of me how so many conservatives have fallen for a narcissistic pop star. Hell, I can't believe I fell for him at first. Luckily I woke up to his garbage. Seems most "conservatives" are still entranced.

    And like I said, you are right, I don't give a damn about law, or protocol when potential nuclear war is on the line. Common sense? I would think setting up back channels to stop a nuclear war is very much common sense. I don't care what country it is, starting a nuclear war is as evil as you can get. If the general thought there was even the tiniest possibility of Trump going off the rails (and he was acting crazier and crazier in that time period), then it is the duty of ANY american in a position to prevent something like that to take action.
     
    cd8ed, MJ Davies and ChiCowboy like this.
  24. Hoosier8

    Hoosier8 Well-Known Member Past Donor

    Joined:
    Jan 16, 2012
    Messages:
    105,454
    Likes Received:
    32,612
    Trophy Points:
    113
    I get it. An anti-war president is to be shunned by the war mongering left.
     
  25. MJ Davies

    MJ Davies Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jun 4, 2020
    Messages:
    13,183
    Likes Received:
    12,649
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Admiration is different than kissing the ground somebody walks on and excusing EVERYTHING they do.

    Obama hasn't been divorced several times, have a fling with a hooker, wasn't court-ordered to pay back millions stolen with fraudulent charities and schools, has never been caught saying derogatory statements about women, doesn't spread rumors and outright lies, is not racist, is not sexist, doesn't believe the USA only belongs to white people, didn't have to pay somebody to do his homework and take his tests in college, is not a blowhard, does not think he's better than everyone on the planet, does fire people for telling him the truth, isn't a bully. isn't a cry baby when he doesn't get his way, doesn't lie to bilk his own supporters and isn't an all-around @ss.

    Don't even begin to try to compare Trump to Obama or any halfway decent person. Trump is a category all his own - narcissistic, sadistic monster who hates his own country.
     
    bx4 and Statistikhengst like this.

Share This Page