Trump Declines Certification That Iran is in Compliance; Brands Iranian Republican Guards Terrorists

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  1. Zorro

    Zorro Well-Known Member

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    This isn't a withdrawal yet, but he refused to certify that Iran is in compliance with its end of the deal. This will be seen as a prelude to withdrawing fully from the deal, unless Iran begins complying.

    Which it won't. It's Iran.

    President Trump announced Friday he will decertify the 2015 Iran nuclear deal, saying he believes the "radical regime" has committed multiple violations of the agreement as he kicked a decision over whether to restore sanctions back to Congress.
    "I am announcing today that we cannot and will not make this certification," Trump said during a speech at the White House. "We will not continue down a path whose predictable conclusion is more violence, more terror, and the very real threat of Iran's nuclear breakthrough."


    Friday's announcement does not withdraw the United States from the Iran deal, which the president called "one of the worst and most one-sided transactions the United States has ever entered into."

    But the president threatened that he could still ultimately pull out of the deal.

    "In the event we are not able to reach a solution working with Congress and our allies, the agreement will be terminated," he said. "It is under continuous review and our participation can be canceled by me as president at any time."


    The three European countries making the most money from dealing with Iran -- Germany, France, and the UK, in that order -- squealed like stuck pigs.

    Trump also ordered the Treasury Department to hit the Iranian Revolutionary Guard Corps (IRGC) with financial sanctions.

    The Treasury Department on Friday slapped sanctions on an elite Iranian military organization, part of its broader strategy to ramp up pressure on Tehran....

    The Treasury is targeting Iran's Revolutionary Guard Corps, a military unit loyal to Supreme Leader Ayatollah Ali Khamenei. Treasury Secretary Steven Mnuchin contended the group has "played a central role to Iran becoming the world's foremost state sponsor of terror."

    The Treasury also sanctioned four entities -- three based in Iran and one based in China -- that it says provides "support to the IRGC or Iran's military."


    The official Treasury Dept release on the sanctions designation against IRGC pic.twitter.com/YtJQtEgdMw

    — John Hudson (@John_Hudson) October 13, 2017

    Good! Congress can do something and we can quit pretending that the deal was anything other than a fraud and infusion of US cash to Iran that guaranteed them safety to cheat until they wanted to sprint to a nuke.
     
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    Grau Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Nonsense, Iran is in compliance(*) with the excellent Nuclear Deal which is supported by most of the world.
    All that Trump's actions prove is that the Zionist lobbies(1), (2) & Netanyahu(3) have him & American Mid East Policy well under control.



    (*)"Iran adhering to nuclear deal with world powers, U.N. watchdog says"
    https://www.washingtonpost.com/worl...01f919a8c86_story.html?utm_term=.e451633a79ba



    (1) "Meet the Zionists In Donald Trumps Administration"
    http://www.jpost.com/Diaspora/The-top-Jewish-officials-in-the-Trump-Administration-479769



    (2)"Meet the Jews in Donald Trump’s Inner Circle"
    https://www.timesofisrael.com/meet-the-jews-in-donald-trumps-inner-circle/


    (3) "Netanyahu & the Lobby Cowboy Up For War With Iran"
    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/mj-rosenberg/netanyahu-the-lobby-cowbo_b_3611038.html

    EXCERPT "But Netanyahu’s fear-mongering has made a difference. The Israel lobby here has made confronting Iran the centerpiece of its activities on Capitol Hill, successfully drafting and easily convincing both Democrats and Republicans to enact sanctions that punish the Iranian people along with resolutions making clear that the U.S. will go to war if Iran doesn’t give up its nuclear program."CONTINUED
     
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    WTF was Obama and Kerry really thinking by pushing this crap through in their last days before leaving office. This deal was always nuts. It's no secret that Germany is not happy with Trump. They do a lot of business with Iran and buy their oil. We may need to sanction some NATO partners very soon too.
     
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  4. Zorro

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    Corker and some of the GOP are just as dirty on this, and I suspected it was cash from Boeing that caused them to sell out our national interest.
     
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    I agree Corker was party to the deal. He's hiding somethings and maybe why he's quitting. Boeing seems like it may have won but I think Airbus actually got a bigger contract. How much of either contract ever gets filled due to sanctions is anyone's guess.
     
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    Nothing but jealousy! But go ahead and sanction your NATO partners - you soon will have no partners left in the world, except Israel, your nemesis.
    Of course, this Trump action is dictated to him by his Jewish "advisors". It is only Israel who wants Iran destroyed, preferably yesterday!!
     
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    What "US cash"?

    The money that went to Iran was IRAN'S OWN MONEY! Not a penny came from the USA.
     
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    So, enter a financial and possibly military war among our Western allies, thereby breaking up the alliance and handing the future over to China/Russia? Brilliant, absolutely brilliant! The blind leading the blind.

    Impeach Donald Trump. He's done enough now, to where he's worthy of impeachment. This is why the impeachment process is there.
     
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    In compliance with a bad deal that lets Iran get nukes? It's a bad deal that Obama made and Trump's not going to be part of it
     
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    It wasn't US cash.. The money belonged to Iran back in 1979.. Trump's hatred for Obama is driving him.. Iran will surely develop nuclear weapons now.

    Trump is insane.
     
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    Naive would have to be the middle name of anyone who thinks Iran hasn't continued to develop Nukes. All the sanctions and actions in the World didn't stop tiny impoverished North Korea from building them.

    You actually think Iran stopped doing so because of the Iran deal?
     
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    I think had we kept the deal, at the very minimum we would've had the diplomatic latitude to actually make sure Iran never develops a nuclear weapon. Now? Now China/Russia get to say "screw you", and the EU is largely moving in that direction too.

    Trump is indeed making the US Isolationist, but not in the way that some have feared/speculated. But out of sheer diplomatic incompetence.
     
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    I disagree. I don't believe for a minute that Iran was ever going to stop development. I don't believe they have. They got their hands on how much cash as a result of "promising" to be good?

    The US has carried the burden of policing the world for too long. Nations can't have their cake, and eat it too. No Nation can afford to flip the middle finger to the US.
     
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    We held it because we knew they would spend it on terrorism. Some of that 150 billion went to terrorist. Every collectivist that was pushing for this deal has blood on their hands.
     
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    Yeah, and every american here who supports our hitler like actions in the middle east has blood all over their bodies. Not just their hands. There is no moral high ground for you guys to peer down from. Murderers of children, being complicit in it. Better not hope there is a final judgment. Lots of folks will be busting Hell wide open. I just wish Hell was real. For there needs to be some justice here for murderers of children.
     
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    Try fact checking.. Trump is a liar and he's bamboozled you again. Trump is envious and all about revenge.
     
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    :roflol:https://www.state.gov/j/ct/rls/crt/2014/239410.htm

    Totally lame. "durrr, Trump is a dumb head, durrrr", is what you people sound like.

    Iran is a state that sponsors terrorism. If you give that state money, some of it will end up going to terrorist. I wonder how many people have been killed by Iran sponsored terrorist that got money that came from Obama?
     
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    You are from the party that is quick to label everyone else with names denoting some sort of bigotry or another; yet what I see on this board expressing views against Trump are clearly anti-semitic.
    Disturbing.
     
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    Margot don't be tiresome. Trump is throwing this dreadfully masochistic deal back to the Senate to codify.
    Only 50 senators voted for it the first time around. If they are SO FOR IT, let them codify it and add their names to it.
     
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    It appears these days, Nazis can pretend to be leftist, go on boards like this, and get away with totally racist and anti-semitic threads.
     
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    Iran has been at this for a very long time. Ever since they overthrew the Shah. They have been the instigators behind all the trouble in the Middle East for 40 years. It's really quite silly to try to blame Trump at this point in time.
     
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    They pretend to be Anti Fachist while using violence and attempting to shut down Milo and Ben Shapiro from speaking as invited guests, both of whom are Jewish. They lack any and all sense of irony.
     
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    This vid describes your average drone to a TEE
     
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    Trump's historic speech covered that, as far as I know, he is the first US president to do so.
     
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    Oh go study history. America has never been in the business of rounding up people and killing them (however tempting it is to entertain the thought). Iranians and Muslims, however, do it EVERY DAY! So I end up in agreement with you, I hope Hell busts wide open with them.
     
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