Trump demands Georgia elections official overturn his defeat in hourlong call

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A recording of the roughly hourlong call was obtained on Sunday by The Atlanta Journal-Constitution and was confirmed by two people involved in the conversation.

At one point in the rambling conversation, the president said that “I just want to find 11,780 votes”

Raffensperger, sounding exasperated, responded forcefully at one point in the back-and-forth: “Well, Mr. President, the challenge you have is the data you have is wrong.”
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https://www.ajc.com/politics/politi...-in-hourlong-call/6MRGK445JNAGHBL2HXLZ3FIVZU/

Oh lordy, there's a tape... haven't heard any of it myself, but I'm sure it's a doozy.

Kudos to Raffensperger for taping this to protect his own ass and expose the other one..

In a bizarre way, I'm proud of Trump for A) Knowing the exact margin he lost by in Georgia and B) Being able to add 1 to that.

Somebody post a link of the actual conversation when posted.

Is this actually legal? Surely there has to be a law out there somewhere about badgering elections officials?

 

Trump has become the very definition of a snowflake. Can't wait untl Jan 20th, when that windbag is no longer Pres.

 

How soon before Trump brings back read the transcript?

This asshat is a total disaster. Thank God his last day in office is near.

 

Desperate times call for desperate measures. It's painful to witness.

 

I would, except Trump is currently on a conference call with God asking HIM (or Her) to find 1 more vote than the current margin in several states...

I hope God pressed Record in time...

 

Georgia, isn't that the state where some woman refused to accept the results of an election and declared a hero by the left?

 

Nah, you’re thinking of Georgia Karen who was fired for refusing a wedding license to a couple because she was a homophobe.
She was a right wing folk hero. I’m surprised that you people haven’t put up a statue for her yet.

 

I like the hard smash to his backhand, but that was Kentucky (unless it happened in Ga as well)

https://www.nbcnews.com/feature/nbc...ed-gay-marriage-licenses-can-be-sued-n1046306

 

He's clearly unhinged, more so than any other time in the past. I honestly don't understand how anyone could listen to his inane ramblings and still support him.

 

This is pretty bad no matter how you look at it.

 

Trump's from New York. That makes him a communist

 

Also, we don't need a transcript here because somebody pressed Record.

Really makes me wish we did have a tape of his call with Zelensky.... I guarantee you the audio would sound a lot worse than even the transcript read. I'm sure they left out the constant repetition and a transcript doesn't reflect tone and manner...

 

Unless you look at it through orange-colored glasses.

 

He isn’t used to people saying “no” to him.
He has surrounded himself with people who don’t challenge the alternate reality he creates.

He’s losing it because, for the first time in his life, people are standing up to him.

 

Lawyer George Conway delivers bad news to Criminal-in-Chief Donnie on prison time awaiting him for another one of his many crimes: Georgia election tampering.

According to 52 U.S.C § 20511(2)(B): "A person, including an election official, who in any election for Federal office- knowingly and willfully deprives, defrauds, or attempts to deprive or defraud the residents of a State of a fair and impartially conducted election process, by- (A) the procurement or submission of voter registration applications that are known by the person to be materially false, fictitious, or fraudulent under the laws of the State in which the election is held; or
(B) the procurement, casting, or tabulation of ballots that are known by the person to be materially false, fictitious, or fraudulent under the laws of the State in which the election is held,hall be fined in accordance with title 18 (which fines shall be paid into the general fund of the Treasury, miscellaneous receipts (pursuant to section 3302 of title 31), notwithstanding any other law), or imprisoned not more than 5 years, or both."

 

Holy $hit.

Trump call.
He's the Kraken.

‘I just want to find 11,780 votes’: In extraordinary hour-long call, Trump pressures Georgia secretary of state to recalculate the vote in his favor (msn.com)

 

Unfortunately, that's a Federal crime, which will be covered under Trumps upcoming 4 year pardon, covering Assault to Zebra Fondling...

Try this on for size...

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(a) (1) A person commits the offense of criminal solicitation to commit election fraud in the first degree when, with intent that another person engage in conduct constituting a felony under this article, he or she solicits, requests, commands, importunes, or otherwise attempts to cause the other person to engage in such conduct.
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https://law.justia.com/codes/georgia/2016/title-21/chapter-2/article-15/section-21-2-604

 

Looks like a crime to me. Lock him up.

 

Well this will throw a wrench into the upcoming senate elections. Every question for the candidates will be centered around this phone call.

 

OUR PRESIDENT AT WORK (listen to the ACTUAL RECORDING, at this site):

https://www.washingtonpost.com/poli...5acb92-4dc4-11eb-bda4-615aaefd0555_story.html


Democracy Dies in Darkness

EXCLUSIVE
‘I just want to find 11,780 votes’: In extraordinary hour-long call, Trump pressures Georgia secretary of state to recalculate the vote in his favor

In a phone call on Saturday, President Trump insisted he won the state and threatened vague legal consequences. Here are excerpts from the call. (Obtained by The Washington Post)
By
Amy Gardner
Jan. 3, 2021 at 3:22 p.m. EST

President Trump urged fellow Republican Brad Raffensperger, the Georgia secretary of state, to “find” enough votes to overturn his defeat in an extraordinary one-hour phone call Saturday that election experts said raised legal questions.

The Washington Post obtained a recording of the conversation in which Trump alternately berated Raffensperger, tried to flatter him, begged him to act and threatened him with vague criminal consequences if the secretary of state refused to pursue his false claims, at one point warning that Raffensperger was taking “a big risk.”

Throughout the call, Raffensperger and his office’s general counsel rejected Trump’s assertions, explaining that the president is relying on debunked conspiracy theories and that President-elect Joe Biden’s 11,779-vote victory in Georgia was fair and accurate.

Trump dismissed their arguments.

“The people of Georgia are angry, the people in the country are angry,” he said. “And there’s nothing wrong with saying, you know, um, that you’ve recalculated.”

Raffensperger responded: “Well, Mr. President, the challenge that you have is, the data you have is wrong.”

At another point, Trump said: “So look. All I want to do is this. I just want to find 11,780 votes, which is one more than we have. Because we won the state.”

Listen to the full Jan. 2 phone call. This audio has been edited to remove the name of an individual about whom the president makes unsubstantiated allegations. (Obtained by The Washington Post)

The rambling and at times incoherent conversation offered a remarkable glimpse of how consumed and desperate the president remains about his loss, unwilling or unable to let the matter go and still believing he can reverse the results in enough battleground states to remain in office.

“There’s no way I lost Georgia,” Trump said, a phrase he repeated again and again on the call. “There’s no way. We won by hundreds of thousands of votes.”

On Sunday, Trump tweeted that he had spoken to Raffensperger, saying the secretary of state was “unwilling, or unable, to answer questions such as the ‘ballots under table’ scam, ballot destruction, out of state ‘voters’, dead voters, and more. He has no clue!”

Raffensperger responded with his own tweet: “Respectfully, President Trump: What you’re saying is not true.”

The pressure Trump put on Raffensperger is the latest example of his attempt to subvert the outcome of the Nov. 3 election through personal outreach to state Republican officials. He previously invited Michigan Republican state leaders to the White House, pressured Georgia Gov. Brian Kemp (R) in a call to try to replace that state’s electors and asked the speaker of the Pennsylvania House of Representatives to help reverse his loss in that state...

Trump has urged supporters to travel to Washington to protest the outcome, and state and federal officials are already bracing for clashes outside...

During their conversation, Trump issued a vague threat to both Raffensperger and Ryan Germany, the secretary of state’s general counsel, suggesting that if they don’t find that thousands of ballots in Fulton County have been illegally destroyed to block investigators — an allegation for which there is no evidence — they would be subject to criminal liability.

“That’s a criminal offense,” he said. “And you can’t let that happen. That’s a big risk to you and to Ryan, your lawyer.”

Trump also told Raffensperger that failure to act by Tuesday would jeopardize the political fortunes of David Perdue and Kelly Loeffler, Georgia’s two Republican senators whose fate in that day’s runoff elections will determine control of the U.S. Senate.

Trump said he plans to talk about the fraud on Monday, when he is scheduled to lead an election eve rally in Dalton, Ga....

“You have a big election coming up and because of what you’ve done to the president — you know, the people of Georgia know that this was a scam,” Trump said. “Because of what you’ve done to the president, a lot of people aren’t going out to vote, and a lot of Republicans are going to vote negative, because they hate what you did to the president. Okay? They hate it. And they’re going to vote. And you would be respected, really respected, if this can be straightened out before the election.”

Trump’s conversation with Raffensperger put him in legally questionable territory, legal experts said. By exhorting the secretary of state to “find” votes and to deploy investigators who “want to find answers,” Trump appears to be encouraging him to doctor the election outcome in Georgia.

But experts said Trump’s clearer transgression is a moral one. Edward B. Foley, a law professor at Ohio State University, said that the legal questions are murky and would be subject to prosecutorial discretion. But he also emphasized that the call was “inappropriate and contemptible” and should prompt moral outrage...

Throughout the call, Trump detailed an exhaustive list of disinformation and conspiracy theories to support his position. He claimed without evidence that he had won Georgia by at least a half-million votes. He floated a barrage of assertions that have been investigated and disproved: that thousands of dead people voted; that an Atlanta election worker scanned 18,000 forged ballots three times each and “100 percent” were for Biden; that thousands more voters living out of state came back to Georgia illegally just to vote in the election.

“So tell me, Brad, what are we going to do? We won the election, and it’s not fair to take it away from us like this,” Trump said. “And it’s going to be very costly in many ways. And I think you have to say that you’re going to reexamine it, and you can reexamine it, but reexamine it with people that want to find answers, not people who don’t want to find answers.”

Trump did most of the talking on the call. He was angry and impatient, calling Raffensperger a “child” and “either dishonest or incompetent” for not believing there was widespread ballot fraud in Atlanta — and twice calling himself a “schmuck” for endorsing Kemp, whom Trump holds in particular contempt for not embracing his claims of fraud.

“I can’t imagine he’s ever getting elected again, I’ll tell you that much right now,” he said.

He also took aim at Kemp’s 2018 opponent, Democrat Stacey Abrams, trying to shame Raffensperger with the idea that his refusal to embrace fraud has helped her and Democrats generally. “Stacey Abrams is laughing about you,” he said. “She’s going around saying, ‘These guys are dumber than a rock.’ What she’s done to this party is unbelievable, I tell you.”

The secretary of state repeatedly sought to push back, saying at one point, “Mr. President, the problem you have with social media, they — people can say anything.”

“Oh this isn’t social media,” Trump retorted. “This is Trump media. It’s not social media. It’s really not. It’s not social media. I don’t care about social media. I couldn’t care less.”

At another point, Trump claimed that votes were scanned three times: “Brad, why did they put the votes in three times? You know, they put ’em in three times.”

Raffensperger responded: “Mr. President, they did not. We did an audit of that and we proved conclusively that they were not scanned three times.”

Trump sounded at turns confused and meandering...

His desperation was perhaps most pronounced during an exchange with Germany, Raffensperger’s general counsel, in which he openly begged for validation.

Trump: “Do you think it’s possible that they shredded ballots in Fulton County? ’Cause that’s what the rumor is. And also that Dominion took out machines. That Dominion is really moving fast to get rid of their, uh, machinery. Do you know anything about that? Because that’s illegal.”

Germany responded: “No, Dominion has not moved any machinery out of Fulton County.”

Trump: “But have they moved the inner parts of the machines and replaced them with other parts?”

Germany: “No.”

Trump: “Are you sure? Ryan?”

Germany: “I’m sure. I’m sure, Mr. President.”

It was clear from the call that Trump has surrounded himself with aides who have fed his false perceptions that the election was stolen. When he claimed that more than 5,000 ballots were cast in Georgia in the name of dead people, Raffensperger responded forcefully: “The actual number was two. Two. Two people that were dead that voted..."

 

When an official feels compelled to record his conversations with the President, the country has a serious problem.

You can't ask a proven fraudster to be honest.

It is obvious that Trump's demands are criminal in nature.

We are talking about sedition and crime against the state.

The worst of all time.

 

Thanks for the link. I wished The Washington Post would have released the whole hour long conversation rather than 4 minutes or so of little snippets.

EDIT: Sorry my fault. There is another media file that is 1 hour and 2 minutes long below the short clip.

 

Does anyone doubt that the charge that Impeached Trump wasn't true?

 

So what? Now you believe her? Lol

 

I think it's in that link, now at least.... I started the audio and it said 1:02 at the bottom...

Off I go, into the world of a ****ing madman.... wish me luck...

EDIT - Within the first minute, he claims he won Georgia big based on rally size... This is going to be one of the least fun hours I've ever spent, but I do it for YOU, America....