Trump Ends Subsidies

That's your propaganda ? I have been to GB, Germany and Denmark I know how much stuff cost there.

Yes they are, amusing how you try to change the goal post because you knew I would post a link..

http://hospitals.webometrics.info/en/world


World

ranking Instituto Country Size Visibilidad Ficheros ricos scholar
ranking Instituto Country Size Visibilidad Ficheros ricos scholar
1 Cleveland Clinic 230 5 17 11
2 St Jude Children's Research Hospital 58 3 103 37
3 Johns Hopkins Medicine 23 6 31 61
4 Mayo Clinic Scottsdale AZ 125 1 987 94
5 University of Maryland Medical Center 92 2 1262 34
6 M D Anderson Cancer Center 97 14 25 39
7 Massachusetts General Hospital 401 20 82 18
8 Assistance Publique Hôpitaux de Paris 96 67 10 43
9 Memorial Sloan Kettering Cancer Center 26 18 619 107
10 New York Presbyterian / Lower Manhattan Hospital 293 4 379 218

 

where are you getting lost? NY did not implement the "red state model" that Kansas implemented.

 

great, if you've used their healthcare, then you are aware it is superior to ours.

uh, I haven't changed any goalposts. Single payer remains, empirically, a superior system to ours.

 

So you don't know what the phrase "on steroids " means?

 

You keep on saying it with no proof what's so ever, it's just trickle down poor

 

Btw why would I use their health care? I have not gone to a doctor in over 30 plus years, except for employee mandated physicals and drug tests..once again I know how much more stuff cost over there..because of the hidden taxes to pay for their "free" health care.

 

So you don't know that NY didn't implement the "red state model" that Kansas did?

 

I've shown it's superior. every other first world nation with single payer, is ranked higher than we are. They get better care at a fraction of what we pay.

 

so if you haven't been treated by their healthcare system, then you don't know how much it costs.

lol

 

Uhm I already posted it ..why do you pretend not to know?

 

posted what?

 

So this is your retort running around in circles? Once again I already posted how much stuff cost more to pay for it.

 

Zzzzzzz so know you have a lot of time on your hands to troll?

 

circles? I've drawn you a perfectly straight line, showing you single payer is superior to our system.

no you didn't.

 

so you don't know what you posted? lol

 

Healthcare is a RIGHT, -not a PRIVILEGE! And privatization of any aspect of healthcare introduces something that is 100% the antagonistic opposite of the intent of healthcare and conflicts with it: PROFIT. Let's stop the arguing over this. It's time for national healthcare. Screw the naysayers. They are now a small minority. The majority wants national healthcare. And all it would take folks, to "get 'er did", is to get about 5% of the population out into the streets, into town hall meetings, and SCREAM. Politicians fear you learning that you have the final and ultimate power. Notice how the minimize it. Obama talked talked talked in his campaign about what the people want and how he would rally the people. Then he was elected. Then he essentially said to the people "thanks but I can take it from here" and there was no more involvement of the people in his administration. He didn't want us to discover our power. But if 4-5% show up like they did for women's rights soon after trump's pathetic "inauguration", it would be a done deal.

 

I've got news for you. All the screaming and rising up is soon going to be futile because the current Obamacare system is about to collapse under it's own weight. The harsh reality is that funding the system is literally becoming impossible and it will happen in phases.

PHASE 1
Starting in 2018 the premiums for millions of low income people on the exchanges will double or triple and that includes most people receiving the government subsidies. This is Obamacare without any changes made by the Trump administration. Many of these people will be forced to drop out of Obamacare and all that funding disappears.

PHASE 2
Phase 1 will cause the premiums of everyone else remaining to increase dramatically and many of these people will choose to drop out because they simply can't justify paying such high premiums when in many cases it would be cheaper to pay out of pocket for most of their typically needed medical care.

PHASE 3
As more and more people choose to drop out, anyone remaining in the system will be so outraged by their constantly increasing high premiums that they will come out in mass, yelling and screaming in such high numbers and loud voices like no one ever imagined would happen. The few that come out in opposition (Obamacare supporters) will be squashed like cockroaches.

Yeah, it's going to get real interesting.
As of 2018 I'm out of Obamacare.

--pete--

 

-which is why it is time to promote and establish national healthcare.