Trump has provoked more division, hatred, violent threats, than any president in history

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  1. HereWeGoAgain

    HereWeGoAgain Well-Known Member

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    LOL! Do you ever post anything but crackpot nonsense? I don't think I've ever seen you post anything that was rational.
     
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    drluggit Well-Known Member Donor

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    So identifying facts for you is "crackpot" and "nonsense"... LMAO. When you think you have a way to respond that isn't a personal attack, you let us know.... k?
     
  3. fmw

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    All in all his actions were good and life was better under his administration. His words, as we all know, were not so good.
     
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    Read that far and I'll call Bullshit on that horseshit. He was preoccupied with getting reelected from the day after he was elected until the day after he was rejected in 2020; totally fumbling a pandemic because of how it MIGHT affect his reelection chances along the way. Then he spent the remainder of his term trying to overturn an election he LOST; culminating in an attack on OUR Capitol. :shock:
     
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    NOPE!
    According to him he had the very best words. :roll:
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    He's certainly provoked more than any I can recall. The closest I can think of is Lincoln, but I'd argue that his critics were the ones doing the "provoking" in the beginning, in reaction to his stances on slavery.
     
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    With very rare exceptions, I see no evidence that he "did the right things for the country." Very, very rare. Meanwhile, one thing he did do was try to overthrow our elections and install himself as an unelected dictator. Actions matter.
     
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    He said, in direct contradiction to the facts.
     
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    I disagree with your assertion that, just for one example, trying to overthrow the election and install oneself as an unelected leader against the will of the people is "good."
     
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    where were these people for 4 long years of total chaos and mismanagement? i have been looking for studies of subliminal advertising on fox news but as near as i can tell anyone who looks at it long enough to study becomes one of the hypnotized drones.
     
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    That he did that is an opinion. Your calling it an overthrow is hyperbolic and worth ignoring it. I would tell you that I am ignoring it but the last time I did that, I got a gig from the moderator.
     
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    There is nothing hyperbolic about it it. He tried to circumvent the election and install himself as an unelected President. That is objective fact. The facts don't care about your feelings. If you have to ignore the facts and hide from them in order to protect your political feelings, then so be it. It isn't like this wasn't easily predicted.
     
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    So you mean that for 4 years you didn't see that things went well except for covid. And you don't see that everything is going badly now in just a year and a half? You must have enjoyed the long nap.
     
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    no it is not as I looked there was many times there were also BLM TERRORIST with their accomplish terror arm ANTIFA
     
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    Probably not, if they haven't figured it out by now.
     
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    Threats against those who are testifying to the Jan 6 committee, or Republican office holders who aren't towing his line, are not in any way the fault of anyone but Trump and his many rabid supporters. The threats are real, serious, and inspired by Trump's own verbal attacks.

    He will keep being blamed as long as he continues to be guilty.
     
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    "Fine" is an acronym: effed up, insecure, neurotic and emotional.

    Yep. That's Trump alright.
     
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    It's interesting how the right trashes Wikipedia unless it's telling them what they want to believe.
     
  20. independentthinker

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    Ummmmmmmmmm, yes, because it is the lefties who have provoked more division, hatred, violent threats, under any president in history.
     
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    When you have to consolidate hundreds or thousands of "lefties" just to equal the division and hatred of ONE man, you've lost dude. The above "argument" is just outright dishonest.
     
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    No he didn't, Trump is not the disease he is the symptom. When Hilary referred to his supporters as the "Deplorables" she was unknowingly demonstrating why people voted for Trump, because the political elite treated them with such contempt. All but the tiny vocal minority of Trump supporters realise he's an idiot but voted for him not for what he represented but for what he was against, against wokeness, extreme political correctness, anti-American prejudice and identity politics.
     
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    Seriously? You're blaming the unhinged, slobber-slinging, destructive, violent and deathly behaviors of the left ON TRUMP? "He made me do it".
    Thinking that producers should keep more of what they produce and Americans should enjoy a few less regulations and restricted set you guys off and now you're blaming him. Oh, and that maybe should standup for itself rather than meekly kowtowing to world government.
     
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    LOL. You yourself admitted that it is just one man, while you ignore tens of thousands on the left who spew hatred, division, and violence.
     
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    I've condemned them. Meanwhile, you are admitting that one man, who used to be President and will likely run again in the next election, is equal to "tens of thousands on the left," and you still defend him. That's ****ing disturbing. I don't think I've seen this level of hatred for the country or our elections from a single individual, except for Trump himself and his closest goons.
     
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