Trump is being Duped

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  1. Foolardi

    Foolardi Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Trump fell for it.It was just too good to resist.That the Syrian use of
    chemical weapons was not to be tolerated.
    But it makes absolutely No sense,whatever that Bashir Al Assad would
    Gas his own people.I know /// I know /// he gassed his own people before.
    NO HE DIDN'T.That was a Huge LIE.As big a lie as the one about
    Libya and the need to get rid of Muammar Gaddafi.Who was assassinated.
    Gaddafi was cooperating and handed over all his chemical and WMD.
    Yes,he was a bad guy who was cooperating.
    Look at what happened when Obama decided to invade Libya.W/O
    consulting or letting Congress have a voice.It became a disaster.
    Assad was also cooperating and was friendly during the Bush Presidency.
    But like Egypt's Hosni Mubarak,,the Obama deceptive Adm. saw fit to
    have him ousted and was very accomating to Muslim Brotherhood's
    Morsi,a Bad guy.Mubarak was no saint but he kept the peace in Egypt.
    Obama also tried to rig the Israeli elections against Benjamin Netanyahu.

    Notice how Nice the Dems are gonna be towards Trump now that he
    struck Syria.But it will be very temporary.Probably until tomorrow
    and they can find a way to compare what Trump just did to how difficult
    it is to actually BE a Commander-in-Chief.
    This is a Ploy by some Global Cabal.Assad did not Gas his own people.
    That was a LIE generated and promoted because it fit a narrative.
    Just like the Lies about Trayvon Martin vs. George Zimmerman.
    Or the Lie about Russia colluding with the Trump team.
    This time Trump took the bait.
    Rush Limbaugh today thought it important to stress
    the new revelation that PolitiFact reported they were wrong 3 years
    ago when they stated that Syria was 100% free on any Gas/Chemical
    weapon.
    Practically any world bad guy could have started those chemical
    . attacks.yet,the Media needed to finish the case with Assad.
    I saw a Rocket attack { chemical attack } that was Video'd
    before it was taken down.Alex Jones had it.It was a Terrorist group
    that did it.The very Terrorist that Assad was fighting.

    Trump is acting on Bad advice and trying to prove that he can solve
    this as our Commander.He is basing everything of bogus Intel.
    That it was Assad.
    BTW ... The entire Bin Laden raid was also Bogus.Yet a vast majority
    of Americans bought into it also.The Bin Laden raid was carried out to
    Prove how Commander-like Obama was.When the entire covert mission
    was called by Leon Panetta.
    Remember the WH Situation Room photo of Obama sitting down and
    carefully watching a TV screen.We were told that Obama and his WH
    staff were watching the Operation in Real Time.
    And that Obama was the one who called the kill shot using a
    code word { Geronimo }.
    The whole thing was a staged set-up.
    Which explains why in August of 2011 a NATO Chinook helicopter
    went down { rocket-propelled grenade } and 30 Americans { 22 Navy Seals } perished.
    We were promised that an Investigation was underway.And would be
    released.That report was never released.
    You are being Stooged ... Again.
     
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    While I would be the first to agree that Trump is easily duped by fake news, this time the info is coming from OUR MILITARY. Assad was testing Trump, and now he'll regret doing so.
    Your rambling rant has nothing but your weak suppositions and no facts.
    I don't want us in another ground war in the ME, but a few tomahawk missiles taking out an Assad airbase are fine with me.
    We could also blanket their sky with drones and I would be fine with that.
     
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    Foolardi Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    You must be joking.The same Military under Leon Panetta.
    The same Military { pentagon } who were found out to have deliberately
    misled the public in reporting the progress against Isis.It was unrealistically
    overblown.
    Even the actual number of sorties flown.Averaging as few as 6-8 per day.
    Where strikes Had to be called-in { for permission } before any bombs
    were dropped.Compare that to the Shock and Awe campaign in the
    early Iraqi Freedom theatre.
    Obama managed to co-opt out Military.How many Generals and Admirals
    were demoted of forced into retirement.To make way for younger,
    much more easily manipulated Military top brass who follow willy nilly
    the stupid Obama marching orders.
    Unless you think Obama was correct to not leave a residual status
    of forces behind in Baghdad.All the Blood,Sweat & tears that went
    into Taking over Baghdad from Saddam and his Republican Guard
    was for nought.Same thing in Mosul.
    Do you pay any attention to what's really going on.
    Over a Billion dollars worth of Humvees got captured and taken
    over in Iraq by Isis.2,3oo Humvees in Mosul alone.
     
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    Foolardi Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Trump may be gambling here.That he takes what's he's been told
    by the Intelligence community and Military experts that it definitely
    Was Assad who ordered and launched the Chemical Attack.
    But if it turns out NOT to be true,Trump has a fallback position.
    That he trusted what he was assured as fact.That he's learned a valuiable
    lesson.He may not be getting good Intel.He may be purposedly being
    lied to.Like what happened all throughout Obama's Foreign Policy.
    Obama lied about almost everything.
     
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    The idea that Assad would do this just to kill a handful of civilians is so improbable as to laughable
     
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    Steady Pie Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    So wait, I'm confused. The left is always complaining about US hegemony, and rightly so. Now you want to give Donald Trump the power to launch an unconstitutional act of war without the authorisation of Congress to police the world?

    What happened to you guys?
     
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    rcfoolinca288 Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    We talk as though none of this have serious consequences, whether the intel is right or not. Devastating a sovereign nation's air force and leaving them defenseless isn't a good idea in that toxic region. Then again, we have not learned the lesson that is Iraq.
     
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    I am always in favor of stopping terrorism or genocide. I'm all for tomahawks and drones, not ground troops.
     
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    So you are starting wars where none is warranted against a sovereign nation? Genocide? 85 people was killed.
     
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    I thought Trump was like, this super smart guy. At least that is what the right wing echo chamber keeps telling us
     
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    Steady Pie Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Without Congressional authorisation?

    Would you be okay with Russia bombing Saudi bases to retaliate against attrocities against the Yemeni citizenry?

    Oh hey, your country refuels their planes while they're on the way to commit attrocities. Whatdyaknow.

    Hypocrites everywhere. Be vigilant.
     
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    Yet Trump have refused to take in Syrian refugees and his supporters agreed. Hypocrites?
     
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    I really don't know how many people,facts,history, resume, etc. it takes to tell you in quite possibly every way...Trump is not competent for this job....But oh well.
     
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    This is what I feared.This bombing mission last night it
    turning into Trump's version of Obama's Bin Laden raid.
    Same doggone thing.It worked wonderd for Obama.
    It gave him super bona fides as our Commander.Re3gardless that
    it was Leon Panetta as Director of the CIA who planned and made the
    call for the raid.He was quickly promoted to Secretary of Defense.
    Therefore avoiding any pesky questions about the raid as
    classified and off limits as Defense Secretary.

    Trump is using the Universally constructed Hatred of Basir al-Assad
    as a way to do build his popularity as Commander,exactly as Obama
    used the Faked Bin Laden Raid.Bin Laden had been dead for years.
    Not seen hide nor hair of in years as he suffered Marfans Syndrome.
    Practically everything about the Bin Laden raid told us was a huge lie.
    Except that Seal Team 6 was deployed.
    I can literally go thru all the lies manufactured that Monday by the MSM
    in support of what was spread-out by the White House.
    From the 45 minute Firefight outside that compound by a tall
    bearded man wearing a turbin and holding a female hostage.
    To the fact not a single picture of the dead Bin Laden raid was
    ever released.There was a pic,but it was an old Internet Pic used
    a couple years earlier and was a known fake.That Pic was so
    laughed over it was taken down.A few Senators were allowed to view
    pics and told not to discuss what they saw other than it proved Bin Laden
    was killed.The Body of Bin Laden was buried at Sea.
    We were told that is what Muslims do.NO ... That is what Muslims do
    when they DIE AT SEA.Not on Land.Sorry Liars.
    It took a long time to find out that the Burial at Sea was Not witnessed
    by those aboard that naval vessel who came out later declaring huge
    discrepencies in what went down as far as that Burial.
    The Sailors who made comments and complained were discharged,
    demoted and disciplined.

    Trump is now appearing to receive ALL kinds of Praise for what
    he did last night.Which will have consequence,Unlike the Bogus
    Bin Laden Raid.Russia now has the reason it needs to go after
    Trump.No More Playing Nice.
    Way to Go Trump.
    You got sucked in to The Obama version of the Bin Laden raid.
    ALL on account you needed to boost your Bona Fides.
    Ya Big New Yorker Mug.
     
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    Foolardi Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    This may also have something to do with the Trouble Steve Bannon is
    having with Jared Kushner { one of Trump's Senior Advisor }.
    One of those men probably was advising Trump that is precisely
    what he needed.Some Big Moment like last night to boost his approval.
    Like what the Bin Laden Raid did for Obama.It took months before
    we found out it was Leon Panetta almost entirely who planned and
    made the order for the Bin Laden Raid.Obama was just the cushy
    recipient of all the reaps.But Initially we were led to believe it
    was entirely planned and strategized by the call made to move by Obama.
    Total Lie.
     
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    The part of this you're not getting is trumpet spent the last year-and-a-half talking about how great Putin is. Putin thought Trump is weak and tested him he was taking advantage of a weak president and putin came up the loser this time
     
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    All any president ever does is listen to the options and give the order to go its people under him that do the planning you're making up crap just to make up crap God you look ridiculous
     
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    Foolardi Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I was critical of Trump when he felt it necessary to LIE about
    Ted Cruz who he ended up refusing to Debate.When so far as to
    have the National Enquirer { run by a friend of his } run a headline
    accusing Ted of having Affairs.Then the bidness of Ted's father possibly
    involved with Lee Harvey Oswald.
    Don't forget that Trump also went after Ben Carson in November of
    2015 just as Carson was among the leading candidates.Trump
    made a big deal about Carson's autobiography and personally called
    into question Dr.Ben Carson's sanity.
    That got totally wished away after a short time.
    But Trump made disparaging remarks of Dr.Carson.
    It was around this time that Mark Levin also had a falling
    out with Trump.
    Trump needs to keep this In Mind.
    He is NOT nor will ever be a Ronald Reagan.
     
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    Lol...So much fake news and conspiracy nonsense in one post.
    You seem to be getting desperate.
    Is your great orange hope already betraying his worshippers?
     
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    Foolardi Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    This does everything to take Susan Rice and by extension Obama right
    out of the daily news.Because Trump fell for it. Instead of waiting
    to find *out who actually deployed a Chemical Weapons attack on an
    Innocent Syrian village.No it was near instantaneous the blame was
    put squarely on Assad. How cartoonish.Why on Earth would Assad
    do it.Oh I see because he's been knonw to Gas his own people.
    I never bought that.It was a Huge Lie crafted for the Globalist and\
    Hillary/Obama to take over the Middle East.Unless you believe
    removing Hosni Murarak and replacing with Obama's personal
    choice Morsi was better for Egypt.
    Or having Muammar Gaddafi taken out did wonders for Libya.
    Again ... why would Assad who was making headway against
    Isis rebels,do something so stupid an order a gas attack.
    It would do nothing for him but cause huge problems.
    And do everything to help those calling for hism ouster.
    Syria is The number 2 Christian Country in the Region { Middle East }.
    Assad was fighting the Wahhabists, Not the Christians.
    Syria suffered the most ruinous elements of their Chistianity.
    Destroying Church's and every known Christian relics.
    al-Assad was a doctor and had 99% support { 2000 }
    and 97% { 2007 } in referendums on his leadership.
    Then Obama the sneak and Hillary the shrill shill came into
    power.We saw what kind of leadership they provided the Middle
    East.Now we have Hillary begging for airstrikes in Syria.
    So what does Trump do ... :
    Plays right along !

    * The Rand Paul approach.The prudent approach.
    Not the brash ... full steam ahead approach of
    Trump.Just to spike his favorability.
     
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    Jared Kusher is a Jewish, globalist. He needs to be removed from this administration. Trump was a fool to bring him on. This is why Bannon is on the way out. This is also why Bannon hates Kushner.
     
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    Something definitely is not right with this picture.Rush Limbaugh
    was just heard making a big deal over why Steve Bannon was heard
    calling out Kushner as a "* cuck " and Globalist.
    Trump will have to answer for this.he can't both be taking advice
    for Kushner AND Bannon when clearly they are not on the same page
    Ideologically.

    * is a new term used by White Nationalists to describe anyone
    who appears spineless and weak.
     
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    This is all about Israel. Kushner is a zionist. The fact that Israel and Kushner backed this attack and want Assad out is all the proof we need. Zionists own the progressive left agenda, and they control the right wing neo cons. What a tragedy.
     
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    Could be.But Obama was agin the Zionists.In fact,Obama had the Muslim
    Brotherhood invited to the White House.And sneakily gave Morsi and
    his Muslim Brotherhood funding.Obama also spied on Israel and
    supported a group that was agin' the Election of Netanyahu.
    The left in this country are Obama's biggest backers.
    The Left is the Mainstream media which is run by many jews.
    The ACLU is mostly Jewish.The biggest funder for it is George Soros.
    Obama IS a Globalist.He was caught sneaking off to attend the
    U.S. held { outside Washington D.C. } Bilderberg Annual Conference
    In june of 2008.Held outside Washington D.C. { Chantilly,Va.}
    Obama managed to ditch the Press that night.
    I don't think there is any indication that President Trump is likely
    any time soon to convert to being a Globalist.Trump is a big supporter
    of Brexit,Marie Le Pen and Nigel Farage.
    Something is not adding up here.
    Maybe Trump is acting Lazy.Sees a golden opportunity to get the MSM
    off his back and receive Kudos for Attacking Syria,where Obama appeared
    slow to act.Trump is going to use this as an example of decisive
    military decision making for betterment of all.
    But what If Assad did not Gas that Village.I mean,where's the proof.
    Our Military and Intelligence under Obama has been severely corrupted.
    Brennan is a shill for Obama.Panetta was shilling for Obama.
    Petraeus was spied-on and framed.Because there was talk of him being a
    good candidate for President.Obama could not tolerate any talk of that.
    Plus Petraeus knew too much regarding Benghazi.
     
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    The rebels in Yemen are firing Russian made missiles into KSA.. Some 40,000 so far.
     

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