Trump is in la la land when it comes to North Korea

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  1. Robert

    Robert Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Why would Cohen tell Democrats more than he told Mueller?

    Cohen has yet to lay a glove on Trump. i doubt Cohen has that in mind anyway.
     
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    Robert Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Frankly i like Trump a hell of a lot more today than I liked him when i voted for him.
     
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    He has also gained popularity among the black, hispanic, and soccer mom demographics.
     
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    There is one possible explanation. Recalling Helsinki where Trump trashed American intelligence and accepted Putin's word because he was sincere, recalling Trump's Syrian surrender to Russia and Iran, it is logical to assume Trump, willingly or unwillingly, is an agent for Russia.

    We know Putin interfered in our election for Trump's benefit. We know Putin's goal is to create as much chaos as he can within the American government.

    There has been chaos within our government caused by Trump. He was "proud" to cause the longest government shutdown in American history. This was followed by a Constitutional crisis in which Trump wants to usurp a power of Congress, the appropriation of funds. There is historical polarity in today's politics caused by an extremely unpopular President.

    Putin is quite pleased with these developments.

    Is Trump a Russian agent? You decide. If your answer is no, please provide an explanation for the facts above.
     
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    Huh? Who said that?

    How do you know? We don't know what Cohen told Mueller. Do you?

    Oh, yes, he does have that in mind. Trump left Cohen swinging in the wind.
     
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    Cohen is not charged for Russian collusion including Trump. Perhaps you need to study more.

    Cohen did his damage in front of Mueller. What makes you assume the Democrats can dig deeper than Mueller did?

    Cohen is a man that does things away from Trump. We find bank robbers have employment but how often do the employers tell bank robbers to rob? Cohen is a long standing lawyer. As all lawyers, he knows law. He chose his path. Trump had nothing to do with any of that.
     
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    We do not know that. Mueller has not informed us of that. Did you ignore what Obama told you? Obama flat told Trump such an event was not possible.

    At the moment, it is the Democrats creating all chaos in our government. They also use their own resistance. They use the media too.
     
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    Trump is doing some truly great things.
     
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    Robert, that is common knowledge. You didn't even know that? Wow!

    American intelligence agencies and both parties on Capitol Hill are in consensus that, as Dan Coats, the director of national intelligence, said, “Russia conducted an unprecedented influence campaign to interfere in the U.S. electoral and political process.”

    The federal and congressional intelligence and national security groups that have stated that Russia interfered in the election:

    1. Central Intelligence Agency

    2. Office of the Director of National Intelligence

    3. F.B.I.

    4. National Security Agency

    5. Justice Department

    6. Department of Homeland Security

    7. House Intelligence Committee

    8. Senate Intelligence Committee

    Russia’s goals were to undermine faith in our democracy, to harm Secretary Clinton’s chances of winning, and to help President Trump’s election chances.

    https://www.nytimes.com/interactive...russian-interference-statements-comments.html
     
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    Robert Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    That is what Mueller is looking to. So far he has not put Putin in this at all.

    I recall the doubt by Democrats that Bush was told by all of his intelligence that Saddam was about to nuke countries too.
     
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    For decades the U.S. policy toward North Korea has been that N.K. complete total denuclearization of the Korean Peninsula before any of the crippling sanctions be lifted.

    Trump is so desperate to make some kind of progress on denuclearization he is making concessions before he even gets to Hanoi.

    The US Special Representative for North Korea Stephen R. Biegun reaffirmed statements made by President Trump and Pompeo that the administration was prepared to move step-by-step toward complete denuclearization “simultaneously and in parallel” toward peace in Korea, starting with a peace declaration; and hinted at US willingness to relax some sanctions before complete and verified denuclearization had been achieved and to defer a complete declaration of North Korea’s nuclear assets. In short, Biegun revealed several major shifts in US negotiating positions.

    https://www.38north.org/2019/02/lsigal020519/

    The media has not mentioned this, and neither has the White House. Why? Because before even meeting with his adversary with whom Trump fell in love, Trump is showing weakness. That is no way to negotiate with a tyrannical, murderous, communist dictator.
     
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    All you prove to all of us daily is that no matter what Trump does, you hate what he does. I recall when Trump was threatening Kim, you raised holy hell he was going to get us into a war with Kim. Now you are anti trying for peace.
     

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