Trump is the President of death

No need to look that far.....just look at the VA.

So there goes that theory that Government doesn't let people die, causes people to not be treated, and doesn't go ooops.

 

So, you & myself have talked about our differences about OBAMACARE over the years, I am very pleased with OBAMACARE & you are not---I am more interested in solving our Health Care issue than arguing back & forth--That being said, after 7 years of OBAMACARE,we have pretty much pin-pointed the problems, so, I think you perhaps should let your elected representative know about your issues as one problem that needs to be fixed--perhaps if our representatives have a list of the problems,they can work together to improve OBAMACARE,because as we are finding out--the GOP repeal & replace is a whole lot more complicated than they thought--
I am as concerned & worried about my healthcare in the future as you are,let's help find a solution-----

 

My solution.

 

Obamacare has been failing since it went into affect. Leftist lapdogs are so fake, you're not fooling anyone.

 

Great----submit your solution to your representative, this is how it starts-float ideas--
I will admit that it is always better for the individual states to find their own solutions instead of involving the Federal Government,However,if the insurance monopoly would not be so greedy, the Government would not have had to step in--So,if OBAMACARE is repealed & not replaced, can we count on the Insurance monopoly to treat us differently than they had before OBAMACARE?
There was a local citizen from Sparks, Nevada, that wrote his solution to our Governor---it was something about letting people (not yet 65) pay into Medicare to be able to use it ( there is more to this proposal,just giving you a jist)---The Governor pondered this for quite awhile before he rejected it-now he is back to pondering this option,to see how it could be tweaked to be effective----just saying,sometimes it takes a village-what a concept--

 

Well, for those of us that OBAMACARE has helped & has worked---completely disagree----

 

"But he really didn't focus on blaming the Democrats. He did focus on those 6 Repubs who didn't want to do their job. Even called them out. So he is putting the blame where it belongs. Funny how you didn't mention that."

Well, I'm mentioning it now ... with emphasis. You are right. The fault lies with the Republican Party, not the Democrats. How is it possible for the Democrats to be at fault since the GOP has held the reins of power for the past six months and have not been able to repeal and replace the ACA despite seven years of practice? Also, neither Trump nor the GOP have included the Democrats in all this. Blaming the Democrats as Trump did on Tuesday is just plain ludicrous.

The main point of this thread, however, is Trump's decree to let Obamacare fail, meaning he will do all his power to ensure its failure. That is a death sentence for many in his base, the uneducated worker, miner, farmer, and rancher.

I did mention that.

 

Unsupportable partisan hyperbole.

 

The Democrats, without one Republican vote, barely passed a flawed system which they knew would fail.
How is the fault of the GOP?

 

With Trump it is a self-fulfilling prophecy. He keeps telling Americans how bad Obamacare is. Then his administration takes steps to ensure its failure. Even without Congress, President Trump has already started doing three things to undermine important provisions of the health law.

1. Weaken enforcement of the individual mandate.
How this hurts Obamacare: Fewer healthy people may sign up for insurance, driving up prices for those who need it most, like older people and the sick.

2. Impose work requirements for Medicaid recipients.
How this hurts Obamacare: Many people who gained coverage through Medicaid expansion may not be able to afford insurance or participate in the program.

3. Fail to do advertising or outreach.
How this hurts Obamacare: Without outreach, the number of Americans who learn about the Affordable Care Act and sign up for coverage could dwindle.

https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2017/07/19/us/what-trump-can-do-to-let-obamacare-fail.html

Trump is actively making sure the ACA fails, thus ensuring the deaths of many Americans, including children. That makes him the President of death.

That is a fact which Trump's fans ignore with their trite, imbecilic comments. Some of them may even be hurt by Trump's decision.

 

May, may, and could.
You base your position on supposition, and nothing else.

 

Reading comprehension is a marvelous tool. I never said Republicans were responsible for the ACA. I said Republicans have had seven years of practice to repeal and replace the ACA. I also said that they have had complete control of both executive and legislative branches of our government for the past six months and they have failed to repeal and replace the ACA. Their failure to repeal and replace the ACA is their responsibility.

Duh!

It is probably a good thing. The Senate health bill has a popularity rating of 12%, whereas the ACA has a rating of 53% despite all the nasty talk from Trump fans who are clueless.

 

Well I already pointed out how the Demos get the blame. They created the problem. Can't forget those that created the problem. That will always be their blame to hold.

Not doing anything will ensure its failure. Yet here he is trying to get something done by telling the GOP don't go home. Come up with something to replace. So there goes that concept of yours that he isn't trying to get something done.

Telling the Repubs don't go home and get to work is the Right thing to do. Of course he isn't the only one telling the Repubs that. So to are grassroot conservative groups.

Of course if the Repubs refuse and just go with Repeal. Then that's on them.

 

It takes special level of blind partisanship to blame the GOP for the failure of an act not a single Republican voted for.

 

That is what he said on Wednesday. On Tuesday, Trump said, "Let Obamacare fail." I have shown the steps he has taken to ensure that failure. On Monday, he said, "Repeal Obamacare now, replace later.

That is three different positions in three days. Which one do we believe? I don't think Trump knows.

It is interesting that you haven't questioned the main point of this discussion. Trump is ordering the federal government to withdraw its support of the current healthcare law. That will cause people to die. Many of them are the people who voted for him.

So far as I can tell, no one has challenged that conclusion. The reason. The consequences of no healthcare are obvious.

 

None. Americans will get health care at reduced costs and reduced insurance premiums. They will be in control of health insurance choices and health care expenditures. ObamaCare is responsible for reduced economic growth and increased real unemployment. The D's could act to prevent this but will not for political reasons. It's clear who is really interested in the welfare of Americans.

 

Seriously, are you really that dense? Are you just replying to posts without reading them? Sounds like it, and you are making yourself look awfully stupid.

I said, "I never said Republicans were responsible for the ACA." Maybe the emphasis will help.

Am I typing too fast for you?

 

Did you get that off the Donald J. Trump home page?

When is this supposed to happen? Next year. In the meantime, Trump has decreed that the current healthcare law will fail and he has taken steps to ensure that failure. That means people will die for lack of healthcare. It's obvious.

Your denial of that fact is ludicrous because what you say isn't happening. Next week, McConnell may not even get the votes to start the discussion, let alone pass any bill.

And guess what that bill is? Is it your healthcare bill providing "reduced costs and reduced insurance premiums." No, it is a bill to repeal Obamacare. Do you know how many votes will be needed to repeal Obamacare? 60 votes. What are the chances of that happening? Zero, nada, no way Jose', and not a single chance in he!!.

 

The Feds need to keep out of the insurance business. And stop forcing Citizens to pay huge sums for insurance. Some people say that to escape the steep rates, they were forced by tax law to pay the Feds $3,000 more in taxes.

Why do Democrats rule by blunt force?

 

Well if that is the case, stop stomping your steel cleated boots on the floor pretending it is just a dance.

 

Children come under current Medicare law. And states also have state laws to protect children.

 

Drama much? 19 states said no to Obama care..


On a personal note what is wrong with you? Why do

 

I've been studying the R health care reform plan for years. It cannot be fully implemented because of reconciliation rules. Unfortunately there are a handful of prima dona R's who are putting their requirements for their respective "perfect" legislation above the good of replacing the ObamaCare disaster. The Ryan/Pence/Price 3 phase repeal and replace plan accomplished all that but instead we have Rand Paul, Ted Cruz, Mike Lee, and the House Freedom Caucus who all have their heads up their a$$es. It will get done but the actions of the those identified above are disgusting. The result of their putting "perfect" as the enemy of good only results in more people being hurt by ObamaCare.

 

The ObamaCare model is to create a very expensive insurance product and then requiring everyone to buy it. Those who qualify receive subsidies and those low income people who don't go into Medicaid. It's a stupid plan doomed to fail run on the premise of government forcing people to act against their economic interests. ObamaCare is failing exactly the way it was predicted to fail.

 

ObamaCare is responsible in part for the pathetic 1% (adjusted for inflation and population growth) economic growth rate of the Obama economy. How does that help the USA ??