Trump is ticked off, and it's easy to see why.

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  1. JohnHamilton

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    The latest indictment of Donald Trump over the classified documents issue is one more example of Democrat run Justice Department harassment. Trump has been singled out for what could be 110 years in prison if he is convicted on all counts and given the maximum sentences. In the meantime, Joe Biden, Mike Pence and Barack Obama, who did the same thing, have no worries.

    Those who have followed my posts, know that I don’t want Trump to run again. My reasons concern his temperament, but given the persecution that he is facing from the legal system, it necessary to take his side on this one.

    Dirty tricks and lies on the campaign trail are one thing. Politicians have been doing that at least since the 1820s when the Democrats accused John Quincy Adams of pimping for the Czar of Russia.

    Using the justice system to eliminate your political opponents is quite another. If one party can use the Justice and Court Systems to harass and remove their political opponents, democracy is doomed in this country.

    People of all political stripes should be concerned about this. Unequal justice under the law is the enemy of a free society.
     
  2. lemmiwinx

    lemmiwinx Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Welcome to the new America where sitting Presidents can order previous ones to be arrested and charged on Trumped up charges.
     
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    WhoDatPhan78 Banned

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    I see someone who hasn't read the indictment.
     
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    Lee Atwater Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I thought you were referring to.........

    Trump lawyers quit classified documents case

    Two lawyers who represented Donald Trump in the months before the former president was indicted on federal charges over his handling of classified documents quit working for him Friday morning.

    The attorneys, Jim Trusty and John Rowley, did not explain in detail why they had resigned, other than to say in a joint statement that “this is a logical moment” to do so given his indictment Thursday in U.S. District Court in Miami.

    Trusty and Rowley also said they will no longer represent Trump in a pending federal criminal probe into his efforts to overturn his loss in the 2020 election to President Joe Biden.

    Trusty had made multiple appearances on television news shows Thursday evening and Friday morning to discuss the indictment of Trump in his capacity as his lawyer.

    https://www.cnbc.com/2023/06/09/trump-lawyers-quit-classified-documents-case.html

    Like rats off the proverbial sinking ship.
     
  5. Lee Atwater

    Lee Atwater Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    ........a prosecutor having overwhelming evidence of his guilt.
     
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    It really is overwhelming, and that's just the indictment.

    People are fooling themselves if they think the federal government makes claims in an indictment that it can't back up x 1000.

    Soon we will have audio recordings of Trump saying the things the indictments quotes, so it won't depend on their ability to read. Somehow MAGA will still say he did nothing wrong.
     
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  7. JohnHamilton

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    Have you?
     
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    WhoDatPhan78 Banned

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    I have. It took about 20 minutes, and i read it slowly, going over certain parts of it twice.
     
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    All they need to do is keep harassing someone to keep them from running for office. It would interesting to see if the Democrats will use the DOJ will go after ALL Republicans who run for office.
     
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    You should read the indictment.
     
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    Pursuing criminal charges recommended by a grand jury isn't harassment no matter how many times you label it so.
     
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    How they stole the 2020 election and now they want to imprison the guy they stole it from: 'Billionaire Biden campaign donor Pierre Omidyar financed the "misinformation reporting" portal used by the Department of Homeland Security to flag social media posts for removal during the 2020 election, new document shows.'
     
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    49 pages of legalese in 20 minutes, very slowly. Got it!
     
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    Have you even looked at it?

    There aren't really that many words on the page. You should give it a shot.
     
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    Unequal application of the law?!
    Looks like Bidens being taken out by them as well. Didnt you hear about the informant thats got all the dirty details "The big guy"? This stuff takes time.
    Seems to me they (The FBI) are being indiscriminate, or you forgetting they sabotaged Hillary first?

    Once again, Its out of the Democrats hands what happens to Trump based on Trumps actions.

    If Trump ends up in jail its only cause he fired all the good lawyers who could have kept him out.
     
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    Trump declassified the documents... before he left office..
    https://archive.org/details/trump-declassified-the-documents
    https://www.govinfo.gov/content/pkg/DCPD-202100044/pdf/DCPD-202100044.pdf
    https://www.federalregister.gov/doc...to-the-fbis-crossfire-hurricane-investigation
    https://trumpwhitehouse.archives.go...lated-fbis-crossfire-hurricane-investigation/
    https://justthenews.com/sites/defau...Declassification of FBI Binder.01.20.2021.pdf
    and Meadows wrote his memorandum to such
    https://justthenews.com/sites/defau...Declassification of FBI Binder.01.20.2021.pdf

    Was there still a SCIF at Mar-a-lago... with not one but two locks on it?
    White House Press Secretary Sean Spicer
    ff to :45
    Feb 14, 2017
     
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    The Great DoJ Werewolf Hunt
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    '...understand, the US DoJ got a hold of that “Joe Biden” Ukraine “whistleblower” receipt a good three years ago, and somehow' DIRTBAG 'Merrick Garland has been unable to take any action on it since then...'

    'So, now we are to have a grand show trial, in the Stalinist mode, of presidential candidate (and werewolf) Donald Trump on charges actually concocted off-site in the Lawfare laboratory of Commissar for Werewolf Activities Andrew Weissmann and sidekick, Brookings Institute fellow Norm Eisen, late counsel to the House Committee that impeached the werewolf with disappointing results over a telephone call to Ukraine in 2019. And, yes, that would be the same Andrew Weissmann who previously (but surreptitiously) led the team of intrepid Lawfare werewolf exorcists fronted by dementia victim Robert Mueller. Mr. Weissmann’s previous two-year-long werewolf hunt was a bust, too, of course. The werewolf slipped off into the moonstruck night to gnaw on Democrat loins again!'

    'This time Mr. Weissman’s front-man is federal attorney Jack Smith, new to the werewolf hunting scene, packing a seven-shot indictment of silver bullets, aiming to show America how it’s done. And just in case he misses those shots, he’s got another gun strapped to his ankle chambering silver bullets engraved with “Jan 6” on the slugs. If you think our world has gotten interesting, better buckle into your Big Boy lounger because this werewolf movie is going places like none before.'

    'Why, just the other day a single “whistleblower” document turned up in the House Oversight Committee’s SCIF — a special room for the performance of secret rituals — suggesting that “JB” was on the receiving end of $5 million gratis from some generous soul connected to a Ukrainian natgas company. That payday, for services left murky, when “JB” happened to be Barack Obama’s vice-president, came around the same period as yet other multi-million-dollar gift parcels from China, Russia, and Romania flew into a long list of companies operated by “JB’s” son Hunter, with no known business other than receiving large sums of money and then writing checks to various Biden family members. “Well Sonofabitch…!” as the president himself once said apropos of legal doings in Ukraine.'

    SOON, THE HUNTERS WILL BE THE HUNTED.
     
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    This was decided already in 2012 ... so anything they think they have on him is only a political hack job..
    the judge ruled Clinton could keep any records he wants... so can Trump... Biden was only a VP
    Judge Amy Jackson ruled in 2012 that a president's discretion to declare records "personal" is far-reaching and mostly unchallengeable.

    https://rumble.com/v2t3ir2-r.i.p-usa-ep.-2028-06092023.html

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    Biden is only being accused by Congress. Hillary destroyed 30 thousand + emails with no consequences. The Democrats have no interest in the long term legal aspects of this situation.

    Yes, unequal application of the law. You guys get all the wins. Enjoy it until it bites you in the butt. Unless you are are a Democrat operative, there is nothing in this for you. When you rights are gone, you might understand. I’m old. I’ll be dead. You will have to live with it.
     
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    Which is why we need to correct it and put Biden and Hillary in jail.
     
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    Are we reading 'Hillary', again? LOL.
     
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    No, they didn't.

    Remember, you can't gaslight regular people with such fables. We know the facts, so we know with 100% certainty that the Trump cultists are making crazy stories up, to defend and excuse the criminal actions of DearLeader.

    You especially won't be able to gaslight law enforcement, who are used to criminals whining that law enforecment is conspiring against them. What Trump and his followers are doing here is what every criminal does.

    We also recognize the entitlement-rage being displayed here. Republicans are so used to getting away with their crimes and cheating-to-win, they've become violently unhinged because it's not happening this time. Without their free pass for criminality, how do they stay out of prison? Without their free pass for cheating, how do they win elections? They don't, hence the rage.
     
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    You seem to be confused about the "obstruction" charges. If Biden, Pence or any other President obstructs justice, they deserve to be tried. And talking
    about "equal treatment" - if Trump was not an ex-president, he would probably already be in jail for life.
     
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    I am not gas lighting anybody. Hillary and Biden are guilty of the same offenses as Trump. They had documents in their possession. Hillary destroyed tens of thousands of them. Biden had documents in several locations. Biden and Hillary Clinton are Democrats. The Democrats control the DOJ and the FBI so they have nothing to worry about.

    You can hang Trump out to dry if all things were equal, but they aren’t. I want Trump out of the picture, but the issue goes well beyond Trump. It has to do with equal application of the law, and the preservation of democracy and the two, or more, party system.
     

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