Trump Jr. to young conservatives: Don't get indoctrinated by these loser teachers pushing socialism

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  1. ocean515

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    Ford Foundation, etc.. Very common to have outside forces take over these charitable foundations and turn them into liberal propaganda machines. Even the Sierra Club.
     
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    Yep - Ford, MacArthur, Rockefeller - you know the story. It's ironic how the foundations set up by the titans of American industry have turned into "progressive" piggy banks.
     
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    The height of irony.

    And these tax exempt, massively wealthy Progressive operations can be found bankrolling all the divisive actions seeking to harm and divide the Nation. There is hardly a cause or radical movement that doesn't have their fingerprints on it.
     
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    Another good Trump comment called a 'gaffe' by out of touch liberals. Many public universities are socialism schools.
     
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    Everyone knows the difference. Leftists simply added the word 'democratic' to the front of their descriptive.
     
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    Does the constitution mandate that all citizens be educated?
     
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    I'm not sure I understand your point...is it your contention that public school is socialism, and is failing?
     
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    So if all teachers are socialists, are conservatives just too lazy or just too stupid to become teachers?
     
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    No.
     
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    So if the constitution does not mandate education or medical health, why is it using tax payer dollars for the former and not the latter?
     
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    You didn't answer my question - aren't you suggesting that public education is socialist?

    I said the argument isn't as laughable as you might think. One of the key aspects of socialism is government/collective control of production, is it not? K-12 public education fits the definition.

    A lot of our public schools are failing. No one disputes that and the fact that many parents are getting their kids out of those schools and into private schools. That's what this whole school voucher thing is about, and of course public officials and teachers unions are fighting it tooth and nail.

    That being said, I'm not arguing that we should shut down our public school system, even if it is socialist.
     
  12. ocean515

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    My recommendation is to become more familiar with the Constitution if you're that interested.

    You asked if the Constitution "mandates" all Citizens be educated. It doesn't. But it does say they have a right to it. Equally, the Constitution doesn't mandate that everyone be provided access to medical care, but it does say they have a right to seek it.

    States adopted their own standards and methods for paying for education. It wasn't always property taxes. Health care is a different issue. How it's paid for is up to the citizens to decide.

    I don't understand how something is paid for relates to whether it "socialist" or not.
     
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    Sorry for not replying. Yes, I believe that the public educational system is a 'socialist' type of offering. And I'm perfectly okay with that.
     
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    Those are excellent points. Our Republic was built with the assumption that we would be a virtuous people.

    "As there is a degree of depravity in mankind which requires a certain degree of circumspection and trust, so there are other qualities in human nature which justify a certain portion of esteem and confidence. Republican government presupposes the existence of these qualities in a higher degree than any other form."
    ~ James Madison, Federalist no. 55, "

    And when we fall short of that, I think Socialism begins to advance. And certainly 2016 with Bernie followed by 2018 with Cortez, we have seen a major advance of Socialism in this country.

    Cortez is the most talked-about Democrat in the country, don't forget that the Democratic Socialists of America got two seats, not just one, Rashida Tlaib, opened the 116th Congress by saying, "Impeach the mother—." Then you have Ilhan Omar who is openly anti-Semitic, anti-Semitism long associated with Socialism.

    Look at all that they have thrown at us in a very short period: Green New Deal, Medicare For All, Eliminating employer-based health insurance, Marginal tax rates of 90 percent, Required Federal Charter for Large Corporations, Confiscation of Private Wealth, Heavy inheritance taxes, "Free" college, Universal basic income and Abolish I.C.E.

    Did the failure of our virtues that created the opening? Honesty, Fidelity, Diligence, Reticence, Delayed Gratification, and Self-Control giving way to Self-expression, Self-indulgence, Instant gratification, and Demanding the impossible, brought to the fore by the War in Iraq, Financial crisis, Post-crash job market, Student debt, Skyrocketing Home prices and NO ONE being held accountable for any of it.

    And we are all engaged in a lot more yelling and finger-pointing than we are in ensuring that our fundamental virtues are being expressed by ourselves and taught to our young.
     
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    Mainly they think that if only they control Socialism, that this time it will work.

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    And let’s do away with public education and Medicare and social security, fix your own roads and those damn firefighters,
     
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    You’re right...these socialist teachers teach science and history, so socialistic
     
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    Like Sweden and Denmark and Italy and Germany and Switzerland etc
     
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    The ones trying to indoctrinate our future generations into an acceptance of socialism most certainly are losers and should be call out for it.
     
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    Trump jr is better at trolling libs than teump ever was
     
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    You mean they should know that there are crazy people out there who pay to get their own penis whacked off? Or so-called parents who deliberately set out to gender confuse a child and then authorize a sex change?
     
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    Maybe some of those items are worthy. But income redistribution is one thing government has no business doing.
     
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    "Trump Jr. to young conservatives: Don't get indoctrinated by these loser teachers pushing socialism"

    The spoiled rotten apple doesn't fall far from the tree
     
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    Ah heck, just handing out a little bit of free money would probably be cheaper than what the government actually does.

    When you pay an army of bureaucrats $90,000 a year in pay and benefits, and all the administrators over them.

    You have no idea how many poor cities in America have an economy that is virtually entirely reliant on outside money coming in to fund the schools, law enforcement and court systems.
     
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