Trump keeps calling for his followers to commit voter fraud...

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  1. Golem

    Golem Well-Known Member Donor

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    How many times do you need me to repeat that NO vote is counted until AFTER the polls close.

    If you are caught, you go to jail. Your votes might still count, though. Maybe both of them. I don't know if that can be "undone". Which is the only thing that interests Trump. You going to jail is not of his interest.

    How can anybody vote for a creep like that?

    And I don't think there are enough stupid people that would risk going to jail to flip the elections. But the fact that this President is looking for any way he can find to cheat should be significant to anybody except those in his most inner cult... (by which I'm not referring to anybody here. I don't want to get in trouble with the mods)
     
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    Voting by mail is supporting fraud, it simply isn’t trustworthy
     
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    As I said. Intelligent people (even moderately intelligent), if they ever consider committing voter fraud, know that one more vote is not going to flip the election. Or a hundred more... or a thousand... So it's not worth it to risk going to prison. This is the reason why voter fraud happens in such an insignificant number of instances. Not only do you have to be ... not too bright... but you have to live, eat and breath partisanship... and possessing moral principles in the range of very limited to none.

    Having said that. I do expect a large number of Trump supporters to commit voter fraud in these elections (as compared to others). Which, in and of itself, is not going to flip the elections. But they're not smart enough to know that.

    No surprise...
     
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    Well you just proved that this entire thread is pointless.

    QED
     
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    Asterisk. He'st the President* with an asterisk. Many reasons that I outlined on another thread.

    Look... Trump supporters need to stop with the "he didn't say those exact words" narrative.

    He said "... that's what they should do"... No difference.
     
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    ~ In California ? You must be joking ... Our governor should be in prison .
     
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    Except that when we discussed this last week, I was told that poll workers couldn't confirm if their votes are tabulated...so how will that work?
     
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    Well this one should inspire different discussion. In the first one, us lefties were told that we are taking Trump too literally and that he was joking. Now, he's repeated it again. So, apparently, not joking. Now how will he be defended for putting his supporters in potential criminal jeopardy?
     
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    What part are you not understanding?

    You sign and send your vote, that's vote one. On Election Day go vote, that's vote two.

    That's voting twice, it's illegal, and you go to jail on felony charges.

    And again I ask the question that no Trump core-loyalist-deep supporter answers: how can anybody consider voting for a creep that is so obsessed with power that he wants his voters to risk going to prison so he can get re-elected?
     
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    OK, he said to vote by mail, check to see if your vote has been tabulated (unsure how to do that), and IF IT HASN'T, go vote in person. So it would only tabulate as one vote, right? It sounds like kind of a silly waste of time to me, yet it could uncover voter fraud I suppose.
     
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    Exactly! The whole premise of this thread and the others like it is a lie!
     
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    I see what he's saying "Doofenshmirtz"! Actually makes perfect sense really! If you're concerned with "YOUR vote" not being counted then the act of voting both ways is redundancy.. If it's caught as a duplicate then one is simply canceled out.. But that's far to innocent for many on the left and far more easier to cling to the idea that devious was the real meaning :)

     
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    Then you let them vote right? They must have safeguards keeping a person from voting twice, no?
     
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    Dirty Donald has been REPEATEDLY encouraging it of late, in three separate states. All in his cowardly attempts to throw the results of our election into doubt.
     
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    At this point we all have come to know what the media can do with the most simplest remarks from the President! And if impossible to spin, then they simply make something up and when caught, just go silent :)
     
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    That asterisk meaning he is a martyr.

    :D
     
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    Canceled out? How would you do that?

    No, it's not "simply canceled out".... the two votes might or might not get counted (I don't know for sure...but it sounds likely they will). But you go to jail. And in many states you don't get to vote ever again.

    But Trump doesn't care. He got your two votes. That is the very personification of a creep!
     
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    Who?

    Yes President Trump told voters to ensure their vote is counted.....and Dem machine is threatening them with a felony for doing that....here is what you never hear of ...or ignore for your fearmongering...https://www.ncsl.org/research/elections-and-campaigns/provisional-ballots.aspx

    It's called a PROVISONAL BALLOT.....voters certainly can do just what the President said, to make sure their vote counts.

    Your fearmongering, is typical left wing voter suppression
     
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    My mistake.
     
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    Not quite.

    http://www.politicalforum.com/index...erisk-when-we-mention-president-trump.567779/

    *President thanks to:

    1- A "Constitutional Technicality" (he lost the popular vote.)
    2- Interference from a foreign government which he might have or might not have encouraged, but definitely helped cover up.
    3- Interference by the FBI 10 days before the elections
    4- The Senate refusing to have a real trial (witnesses, documents, evidence,...) when he was caught cheating
    5- If re-elected, it would only be because the Senate gave him green light to cheat in the elections.
    6- Basically, because the constitutional checks to ensure a democratic process did not work as intended.
     
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    It's the damned video of Obama himself. You have to actually listen to the words, not just jump straight to attacking the source.
    And no, she is CLEARLY referring to ILLEGALS, because she said "I view them as citizens because of their contributions". Sorry, contributions do not make one automatically a citizen, lol.

    So no, you'll need to actually address what was said in the interview, which included a video straight from Obama's mouth.
     
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    I already addressed your concerns, although for somewhat different reasons than you mention.

    Damn, you’re fast.
     
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    Death cult leader Jim Jones deliberately created complex legal guardianship relationships among the members to split up families if any person left the church. He would use members' sense of loyalty to sign a false confessions; or involve and entrap an inside advisor in some illegal activity--real or alleged--and then blackmail them; or have guardianship over a child as leverage.

    We see the same manipulation technique used by Trump by advising citizens to commit felonies to embroil them in a legal struggle in which the felon is now wholly dependent on Trump winning power.
     
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    Also, it wasn’t simply because I wouldn’t view the video. I did. She says the word “undocumented” so fast, I barely heard it first time.

    I still think he was addressing her concern about Dreamers, not necessarily about undocumented aliens.

    But you know what? I’m changing my mind again because then, after all that about millennials, Dreamers, & undocumented... citizens, her questions then is, “If I vote, will INS know where I live, will they come for my family?” She asks about herself, and that’s the question he addresses. I’m assuming she’s a Dreamer.
     
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    Are Dreamers allowed to vote? No, they are not eligible to vote.
     

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