Trump keeps calling for his followers to commit voter fraud...

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  1. Moolk

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    It’s been proven beyond any doubt it is fraud, and this is dems plan. You may not know it but that is not my fault. I suggest you do more research.
     
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    i am...he isn’t telling them to vote twice what he said was perfectly legal to do
     
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    Maybe it "should", I guess... But, in real life, you likely just go to jail.

    Don't count on Trump to care whether or not you go to jail, though.
     
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    You vote by mail, and then you go to a polling place and vote again, and you are committing voter fraud.

    For example, in Florida statute 104.18 says: "...whoever willfully votes more than one ballot at any election commits a felony of the third degree...," And that means a prison term of no more than five years and/or a $5,000 fine.
     
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    Well don't do that...nobody is suggesting that.

    Trump's quote didn't say that....here's Fl's FAQs...about something called "Provisional Ballots" https://dos.myflorida.com/elections/contacts/frequently-asked-questions/faq-voting/

    I suggest you actually do what your sig line says sometime, instead of misleading people about what the President said, and editing people's post
     
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    All this BS reminds me of the "some fine people" bruhaha.
    Some stricken with severe TDS hang on every word their president says and their going through life with no sense of humor makes getting through the day very difficult.
    People need to lighten up and look at the context.
     
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    Not if the President suggested I cover all my bases ;)
     
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    No, ya didn't.
     
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    Tough luck?
     
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    I’m looking into right now if Gina Rodriguez is a Dreamer. Her parents are from Puerto Rico, and she was born in Chicago, so I’m just sorting through some confusion about it at the moment.

    If you got a link with that info, I’d appreciate it.
     
  11. quiller

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    Josh Marshall believes other leftists use his fanciful screeds as advice on their next outrage against America. T.P.M. is every bit the self-important joke you'd expect.
     
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    No link on her specifically. But the logic of the conversation was crystal clear.
     
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    I think you hyperventilate as usual for nothing. The Trump Derangement Syndrome is strong on this forum. Too many deliberately twist and misinterpret. Too many are too wrong for too long.
     
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    She asked “I”, so if she’s not a dreamer, you can feel free to spin it however you like. I‘ve been this place long enough to never expect any other people to change their minds here.

    The word “I” has a very specific meaning, though, usually.
     
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    Hey! You’re back!
    I’ve missed your style!
     
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    Yes, and she used the term "citizens" to refer to illegals, which they're not. And maybe Obama was dumb enough to fall for it.
     
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    Been back here for some months now.
     
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    That’s her opinion, and she’s welcome to it.

    She also didn’t specifically ask about presidential elections, just voting in general.
     
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    Keep trying to parse your way out of that one. Obama essentially told illegals it was safe to vote.
     
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    Sure. She asks “I” and doesn’t mention presidential elections, but I’m parsing my way out. I’m not the one putting words in her mouth and trying to redefine words to fit his argument.

    I simply conceded too soon last night and am just thankful you decided to bring it up again.
     
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    It seems you need to re-watch the video and listen more carefully.
     
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    Please! I’ve watched it like 20 times now. That fact that your argument is now totally focused on me only serves to show you have no argument left.
     
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    Obama said that illegals voting would not be deported, ergo he tried as best he could to promote illegals voting.
    The question was simple. Obama could have alternatively responded by saying that illegals who vote would be prosecuted. He didn't.
     
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    It looks to me like he’s talking about Rodriguez specifically. She asks, “Will they come for MY family and deport us?”

    Obama says, “No, because when you vote, you are a citizen yourself.” He even invoked the phrase “you, yourself” to bring home the fact that he talking specifically about Rodriguez.

    And you act like Obama has the added responsibility of addressing questions that were never asked. He could have also warned minors to stay away from the polls, too, if he really wanted to address all aspects of voter restrictions. So what?
     
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    Nah, any objective person can hear what Obama said and that he was talking in general. Besides, he had the perfect opportunity to point out that illegals can't vote, and he folded.
     
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