Trump lies to cover the original lie, the White House tapes

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  1. Sandy Shanks

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    We never stop learning. That is the key.
     
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    It was the Calls to Mexico and Australia early in the day. Hint You aren't going to have people in the room you can't trust to keep their mouths shut at need.
     
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    Of course there are other people in the room but there won't be people you can't trust to keep their mouths shut. And there won't be a lot of them. And it was the Calls with the Mexican president and the Australian PM early in his presidency.
     
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    IIRC he never said there were tapes--only that the other fellow better hope he didn't have tapes. My guess is not knowing caused him to tread more carefully during his testimony, so it was a gambit that likely paid off.
     
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    Admittedly I did not read the entirety of the replies in this thread before responding to your OP. Though I still wouldn't call this particular statement a lie. Saying that Comey better hope no one recorded him is not one in the same as claiming that someone did in fact record him. Also, we're concluding now that Trump knows there are no tapes of the conversation, but does that nessisarily mean he knew that at the time of the tweet? For all we know, he could have tweeted that, and then proceeded to ask everyone in the staff if there were any recordings of that particular event. Furthermore, he could have also been merely expressing his desire to find a recording somewhere, and not necessarily stating that there was one.

    The only thing reports like this prove is bias
     
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    Give everyone a freaking break.

    There hasn't been a tape recorder inside the White House in 44 years.
     
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    So the theory goes, anyway.

    Those calls were intercepted by the NSA. The NSA probably is not taping the White House, but they do wiretap embassies and consulates.

    Trump doesn't have many friends in the NSA, CIA, and FBI. He is making enemies of our Western allies, and those agencies don't like it one bit. They rely on our Western friends for information.
     
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    I knew that. You need to tell Trump. He seems a bit confused on the matter.
     
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    That is a rather contorted explanation for what might have happened. Now you are assuming Trump doesn't know what is going on in the White House. Very possible, but I don't think he is that stupid.

    The logical explanation without a Machiavellian scenario is there are no tapes, he knew it, and he lied about the possibility.
     
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    Which is why Comey told the Senators that he hoped there were tapes.

    Good thinking.:eyepopping:
     
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    Well Trump's tweet about tapes probably scared Comey.

    Do you know what a G-Man is ? The phrase was coined by some really bad hombres during the Roaring 20's.

    G-Men get their feelings hurt very easily.

    When Obama is subpoenaed and testifies under oath and is asked "What did you know and when did you know it" he will also be asked "Why didn't you do jack **** about it ?"

    Obama should have fired Comey a long time ago. Why didn't he ?

    Trump should have fired Comey on January 20th, 2017.

    When Nixon was still in the White House the number two G-Man in the country was the Deputy Director of the FBI, Mark Felt who was really butt hurt that President Nixon didn't appoint him as J. Edgar Hoover's replacement as the Director of the FBI. So butt hurt that Mark Felt contacted the WaPo with an agenda to take down President Nixon.

    Today you have to look at Watergate completely different. In 2005 the secret of "Who's Deep Throat" was exposed.

    The Deputy Director of the FBI, Mark Felt was Deep Throat.

    James Cobey is the Mark Felt of the 21st Century.

    Kinda scary that one man in America is so powerful that he could remove a sitting President from office. Or allow a crooked Presidential candidate to avoid prosecution.

    From 1935 to 1972 the most feared man in America by criminals, law abiding citizens and sitting Presidents was J. Edgar Hoover.

    Comey is butt hurt just like Deep Throat was and Comey better hope there are no tapes.

    But I just don't see a 71 year old man who has a Tittter account and tweets owning a tape recorder, do you ?
     
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    So Trump is being listened to and you make fun of him for believing it.
     
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    I'm not assuming anything, in fact quite the opposite, I am saying that I don't know.. because I have no way of knowing if he knew there were no recordings at that time. You don't know either, you can only speculate on the likelihood of him knowing. I'm not going to call a statement a lie unless I know it is a lie, and there are plenty of statements from him that I would call a lie, but this isn't one of them
     
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    He still didn't know though when he was testifying.
     
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    You know, given what is going on in America, and Syria, all of this stuff about trump lying seems to be one helluva distraction, and just partisan, silly, political based pettiness as if it had any significance at all in the big picture. It reminds me of juvenile behavior and talk one saw in high school from clueless, spoiled brats who lived a very shallow existence and had to fabricate nonsense in order to find some kind of value and meaning in their drab and boring lives.

    These personal attacks are just so absurd given that you see just as much, if not more lying and dishonesty from the woman you guys told us could not be beaten. You voted for one of the most dangerous, lying politicians ever to walk this earth, and yet are so hypocritical as to incessantly go after another liar, as if he was doing something unacceptable to your moral code. But clearly, only in utter hypocrisy can you do this, for the lies of Hillary didn't bother you are all. SO, IMO, we are looking at piles of whale **** here, with each of this sort of OP. And the whale feces is up to the eyeballs with you guys. The only thing as bad as lying is this pile of hypocrisy that emanates from the left as strongly as from a pile of the worst maggot gagging, freshly ejected monkey crap, which you then pick up and throw, trying to get it to stick to something, but generally only sticks to your own hands, which you then rub across your face and through your hair.
     
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    No, he explained it all. He said it was possible with all the spying, leaking going on that there could have been a recording of some sort and if there was he was confident about what transpired. He never said he had tapes and never said there was any made. End of story.

    Anyways, if you want to start about lying you can start with Media, FBI, Obama upper admin, Hillary, Media, deep state, Media, oh, and the media.
     
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    :roflol:You can't be serious.

    In fact, your entire post is somewhat humorous. We could use a little levity around here. Thank you.
     
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    Actual Quote - "James Comey better hope there are no tapes..."

    Topic of this thread is a complete falsehood and the opposite of the truth since he never claimed there were tapes in the above quote.

    Over sensationalist topic is over sensationalist
     
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    Humorous ???

    I don't find it humorous but right out scary that Deep Throat was the Deputy Director of the FBI who was bypassed replacing J. Edgar Hoover as the new Director of the FBI and his feelings got hurt and seek revenge on taking down a sitting President.

    John Felt (Deep Throat) was butt hurt and today James Comey is butt hurt. That's not humorous.
     
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    Trump knew there were no tapes. That makes what he said a lie. It took him 41 days to admit that to the American people. Then he made up another lie to cover-up the original lie. Geez!

    Another clear example, Trump fans seek escape from reality. They won't admit a truth if it smacked them in the nose. If one knows what the truth is, then says the opposite, that is a lie.
     
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    Boy, you are smoking some good stuff.
     
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    good stuff
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