Trump Made Air Force Stop Overnight at His Scotland Golf Course

If Trump wins in 2020 I think it will be Ivanka myself. She's much more personable and LOTS more fun to look at. Any other serious candidates will be Vladimir's guests in Lubyanka

 

Quite, he should be able to easily 'comp' all the diplomats he's been charging AND his goll trips. Even a HUNDRED million dollars is nothing to the income you can pull off even ONE billion and he claims to have EIGHT, though even his most optimistic observers say it can't be over four. He could LEGALLY write off the whole thing as a promotional expense, and probably MAKE money on the deal, possibly even more than he's swindling us for

The man just seems unable NOT to be a total crook . He doesn't even TRY to be honest anymore.

 

He doesn’t have to hide it, no one is even remotely trying to hold him accountable.

Republicans cheer or ignore the blatant corruption
Democrats keep saying they are going to do something but don’t
Voters are too worried about hurting their political enemies

 

Just as inexcusable as Obama sending his wife and daughter on an African trip or his own trip to Hawaii where he hasn't lived in decades. Presidents seem to ignore how their activities look to the public.

 

Even if it is proven true his fans in Congress will never do the right thing.

 

Trump is actually not a Republican he just plays one in the White House.

 

Citing what Obama is accused of is not a justification for Trump's possible corruption. Why are you bringing allegations only against Obama alone when you in turn admit that presidents ( all) do things such as let their family travel. Bush's did, Reagan did, Billy C did, and back in the olden days JFK, and LBJ, and Tricky Dickie did.

 

OK I read the article and I can't find any mention of Trump forcing the Air Force to stop there.

Apparently more fake news.

 

Yes, it’s totally normal for them to land at a civilian airport that is out of the way and more expensive that just happens to be next to a trump property that is heavily reliant on the airport not closing. It’s just by chance that this happened soon after he was elected, right? Even the members of the military that were on these stops found the cause strange and the pentagon is refusing to hand over information related to the change in flight pattens. trump is totally not profiting off of his position.

All just coincidence

Nothing to see here

Move along

 

Having a background in Army Aviation, I'm more confident of my assessment of what's normal and what isn't in terms of aircrew layovers than I am of yours. However the central thesis of this fake news story, that Trump is forcing the military to reroute flights for the sole reason of encouraging layovers in his facilities, would be, if true, gigantic news and a massive scandal. Maybe this is a story that is worth some actual investigation. Did the military actually reroute flights there? If so why? Was there a military or logistics reason or were there orders from outside the military command structure directing them to do that? If so, who? I mean, there are a ton of possible intriguing questions that Rolling Stone could have pursued. Instead they put as little effort into actual research into this story as a typical Maddow piece.

Not that Rolling Stone has a stellar record on investigative journalism. If their source turns out to be Haven Monahan, you'll know you've been had.

 

The story is actually from politico, they have a tad bit more information
https://www.politico.com/story/2019/09/06/air-force-trump-scottish-retreat-1484337.

“The inquiry is part of a broader, previously unreported probe into U.S. military expenditures at and around the Trump property in Scotland. According to a letterthe panel sent to the Pentagon in June, the military has spent $11 million on fuel at the Prestwick Airport — the closest airport to Trump Turnberry — since October 2017, fuel that would be cheaper if purchased at a U.S. military base. The letter also cites a Guardian report that the airport provided cut-rate rooms and free rounds of golf at Turnberry for U.S. military members.

Taken together, the incidents raise the possibility that the military has helped keep Trump’s Turnberry resort afloat — the property lost $4.5 million in 2017, but revenue went up $3 million in 2018.”

And

“The Pentagon has yet to respond publicly to the broader questions posed by the House oversight panel in its detailed letter to then-Acting Defense Secretary Pat Shanahan in June. A spokesman told POLITICO Saturday that it will take some time to respond to the broader allegations.

Accusations that Trump’s properties are unfairly profiting off of his administration have dogged the president since entering office. Ethics officials and lawmakers have raised concerns about foreign officials staying at Trump hotels, and noted that Trump supporters and industry groups regularly throw bashes at Trump-owned locations. Trump is also considering hosting next year’s Group of Seven gathering of world leaders at his Doral resort in Florida, a potential financial boon for the property, and has previously stayed at the Turnberry property.”

And finally

“After being elected, Trump chose not to fully divest himself from his business interests, choosing instead to put his holdings in a trust that he can receive money from at any time.”

 

Apparently some people posting here don't have a clue that the Air Force stayed at the location in question at the Government Per Diem Rate. In other words much to do about nothing.

 

As I said, I'm more sure of my military aviation experience than yours. We often purchased aviation fuel from available civilian airports. So...show me the chain of communications from the White House to the military directing this...I'll wait.

 

Did y’all often divert flight patterns away from military bases that were closer and cheaper to more expensive smaller civilian airports that were out of the way?

 

LOL, we have a much better economy than our allies. Record low unemployment, stock market flirting with record highs, and I saw the other day in 2016 before the election the CBO predicted 2,000,000 new jobs to this point, instead we have over 6,000,000. I'm sure Pocahontas or Horizontal Harris would have done better, right?

 

Brig. Gen. Ed Thomas said in the statement. “In this case, they made reservations through the Defense Travel System and used the closest available and least expensive accommodations to the airfield within the crews’ allowable hotel rates. While we are still reviewing the trip records, we have found nothing that falls outside the guidelines associated with selecting stopover airports on travel routes and hotel accommodations for crew rest.”

The Air Force confirmed that seven crew members stayed at Turnberry en route to Kuwait, but said “it did not appear” that they stayed at the hotel on the way back. There are more than two dozen hotels in and around Prestwick, but the Air Force said Trump Turnberry was the cheapest option available at the time and below the per diem allowance. POLITICO could not independently verify the room rates cited by the Air Force.

Damn i have apps on my phone that could get me hotel rates.. Politico is slacking.

 

That meme is a lie. The President didn't pick the Golf Course. The property, made a bid to host it...that's all....

 

The left is so desperate, they don't care about the facts.

 

So let me get this straight.

1. The Pentagon contracts with hotels for overnight stays of military members at a discounted rate.
2. The contract with these hotels/resorts were set up during the Obama administration.
3. The military used the hotels/resort that the Pentagon contracts with.
4. However, so people think that Trump personally directed the military to use his resorts.

I would think that if Trump personally directed this, there would be some "unnamed source" informing everybody of this.

 

When you rely on the Trump hating media for your information it is no wonder you are so misinformed.

https://www.bea.gov/news/glance

 

POLITICO could not independently verify the room rates cited by the Air Force.

You missed this part...

Shouldnt the crack staff at Politico verify something BEFORE they make huge claims....

 

And he had 2 scoops of ice cream. Oh the horrors. Is this all you've got?

 

He must be fooling rank and file Republicans, who hold him in record esteem.

 

In other words all presidents do this kind of thing. So why bring it up in the first place? Clear enough for you?

 

I am not the one who used as a defense that all president's do it. That "clear enough for you".