Trump-Netanyahu’s ‘deal of the century’ revealed

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  1. alexa

    alexa Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Obviously this is a deal for Israel. The Palestinians have never been involved. It is an excuse to allow Israel do what it is all ready doing, annexing Area C. Remember as far as Trump is considered Israel now has the Golan Heights as well.

    Israel and Trump can huff and puff. This is not legal. Trump is not God and cannot say which land which he does not own can belong to who he wants.

    I guess the US believes enough of the Middle East has been destroyed so it can bring this in.

    https://www.middleeastmonitor.com/20170720-trump-netanyahus-deal-of-the-century-revealed/

    I am not sure how accurate this is. RT appeared to be saying something a bit different.


    In Oslo the Palestinians agreed to give up 78% of their homeland for just 22% on which they could build their own viable state.

    The Palestinians have agreed to none of this.

    Again this final Colonialism which the US and Israel are doing is not lawful.
     
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    What is not only not lawful, but also immoral, is the Palestinian demand for an Islamic Theocracy. What is morally stupid is Israel not demanding the unconditional surrender of the Palestinians, and the terrorist goons and states that support them.
     
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    The proplem with the pals is that they always want what was in the previous deals that they rejected.
    If they wanted Oslo, then they should've accepted Oslo. If they wanted Camp David, then they should've accepted Camp David.
    This is the real world not kinddergarten.

    The pals have been crying for a return to pre-1967, well, they'll get something similar with Egypt in Gaza, Jordan in the WB and Israel for the rest.
    None of Israel neighbors want an armed independant palestine either so it's time for the pals to integrate and move on.
     
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    Land belongs to no one except those that can stick their flag in it and defend it.

    Should've told the Palestinians to get them some allies instead of waving a stupid piece of paper around saying it gave them the right to it.

    lol
     
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    All true.


    True again. Anytime the U.S. says it has a solution for the Middle East I quickly change to the weather channel.
     
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    alexa Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Just listening to Dimitry Dilani of Fatah.

    He said quite simply. There is no deal. A Deal requires two people to agree,. This is just one side making demands. He says that this is just two right wing Zionists ideologues one in the white house and one in Tel Aviv.This has nothing to do with International Law or the UN. He talks of Netanyhu as like a used car salesman. He calls him a clown but says the joke is not funny. He also points out what others are which is that this has possibly come out at the moment to help Netanyahu in the coming elections.
     
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    Trump proposes Palestinian state with capital in East Jerusalem
    https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/worl...es-palestinian-state/ar-BBZpk4y?ocid=msedgntp
    I don't usually support Trump, but I do here. It's not even the plan I have in mind for the Palestinian state, which would be might makes right and Israel takes it all.

    But this is a good plan. Let the Palestinians prove themselves, and if they're ready to make a state.

    Trump must be a foreign policy genius. This plan rocks!

    Now where is my next democrat policy survey in my email??? I think the Democrats need to focus on foreign policy. How do I contact them?
     
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    Sounds like an interesting deal that involves the neighbors. Israel would give Palestinians under its territory citizenship. Too bad Jordan and Egypt won't do that.

    Interesting to see how this goes.
     
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    It is no deal. It is a demand.
     
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    Yes. It's the adults dealing with the child.
     
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    alexa Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    To you Colonialists are adults and the indigenous people are children. Just the original colonial thinking.

    Another way of course is that you have destroyed the Middle East so that there is no way they can fight for their rights.

    I do though get it is just back to old colonialism with the added racism thinking the aggressors are 'adults' and those they take from are 'children' who they can do anything they want to.

    This is what WW2 was supposed to end...
     
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    What has to be taken into account for a peace deal is the mentality of the Palestinians. There is no way the Sunni extremists will give up control of any area in the Middle East. If they did, it would mean to them that other faiths have triumphed over Islam. Something that cannot be tolerated by a religion with political aspirations, and believes that it supersedes all other faiths.

    This is especially true when it comes to Christianity, since they see Mohamed as having superseded Jesus. That Mohamed added nothing to the full revelation of God given to us by Jesus in the New Testament is beyond them, but that's neither here nor there. To each his own.

    I'm sure that the Saudi's and other Gulf nations are giving vast sums to the Palestinian leaders to keep the people in poverty - knowing that when people are suffering, they will continue fighting to take back Israel.

    Of course any solution would have to take Israel's security into account. It would be suicide for them not to. Trump's mistake is that he should have shown some humanity towards the Palestinians, that way they would be more agreeable to a deal. Instead, he's following Netanyahu's policy of beating people into submission, something that doesn't work with Muslims. Trump should have softened them up before hand. Instead he did the opposite.
     
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    Your hatred of US and Israel is coloring the fact that Jordan, Egypt Israel and US are all four working together on this. Three of these countries are from Middle East working for the betterment of the region and the Palestinians ...who frankly just wants Israel to be erased from the earth.
    It's a good thing.
     
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    Alexa, I'm going to play the devil's advocate. I know it's hard to ignore the hard heartedness of the Israeli advocates, especially the ones on the forum, who tend to do more harm to Israel by their attitude than the Palestinians. But let's look at things logically and not react to our emotions.

    The reality is that every country is willing to take in their own refugees when persecuted - but not the Arab nations. Yet these wealthy Islamic nations will take in non Muslims - especially Europeans with the hope to convert them.


    The Palestinians were kicked out of Jordan decades ago, and had to find refuge in Lebanon - a nation established by France for its majority Christian population. With the arrival of the Palestinians, it is now predominantly Muslim. That was the intent.

    What I'm trying to say is that Israel has a point since its survival is at stake. If you feel that the Palestinians should have the right of return, doesn't that mean that all the millions who were displaced in the last century should be given the same right? So how far back in history should the right of return go?

    This of course doesn't excuse the random Israeli killings of Palestinians, and especially children which is despicable, but let's not lose our sense of logic because of the inhumanity of others.
     
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    Is it the Palestinian people, or the Islamic extremists who are supporting the leaders to keep them in subjugation? That way the Palestinians will keep fighting to take back Palestine.
     
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    More than two people are part of the deal. The Israeli, Jordan and Egypt can agree without the pals.
     
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    I think it's both but with the thuggery that goes on there, it's hard to tell.
     
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    I suspect this is DOA with the Palestinians. They had a better deal with the Olso Accords. The only real offer is to pause the Israeli West Bank settlements, for four years with no guarantee of a solution, which has never been internationally recognized in the first place. Hopefully, however, genuine renewed negotiations will begin before the expiration of Netanyahu's forthcoming prison terms imposed by the Israeli courts.
     
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    The Palestinians won't be happy until Israel is driven into the sea. Nothing short of that is acceptable, so the rockets will keep coming from hospitals and elementary schools.
     
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    It is astonishing that there are people who do not understand this. You know, the ones who walk passed the newsstand and glance at the headlines and think they've just learned something important so they can be at the centre of attention at the water-cooler at the office. "Well, the President is finally going to bring peace the Middle East".
     
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    "Hate"? :blahblah: You people have such a limited vocabulary. It must be frustrating being restricted to choosing between "like or hate" - "with or against" - "love or leave" - "black or white".

    Referencing Egypt and Jordan is like saying, "Well, Canada, Mexico, and Guatemala have decided the U.S. must ban all firearms and since they are all American nations ...... the vote will carry"
     
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    Here's, there is the only truth that matters: Israel is a free nation surrounded by Islamic thugs, tyrants, and dictatorships. Everything else is BS meant to hide this truth.
     
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    alexa Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    It is the mentality of only seeing emotion. You hate us rather than arguing points. It is part of post truth.
     
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    And guess what - some of those hospitals and schools were built by Israel.
    In fact until the Six Day War when Israel found itself having the responsibility
    of the West Bank there wasn't a single hospital there. Even to this day nearly
    half a million Palestinians travel to Israel for medical or hospital visits.
     
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    Yes, always has been. Given however that the Israelis will start to impose that does not help them. This is the time of the end of International Law as far as both the US and Israel are concerned.
    The Palestinians were beaten when they agreed to the Oslo accords and agreed that they would allow Israel to take 78% of their homeland in exchange for only 22% with which they could build a viable congruous state. Israel never intended to honour Oslo. She just was wanting more time to put more facts on the ground and take more of Palestine,. According to the video in the link below Israel is now intending on leaving the Palestinians with 6% of their ancient homeland. This is no deal for the Palestinians. Included in this are briefs to take away the Israeli citizenship of those Palestinians who were not ethnically cleansed and who have been living in Israel since Israel came into being. This is a deal for an ethnic Nationalist State of Israel.

    They also intend on taking the water supply of Jordan and the Palestinians. - see video for more information on both of these.

    https://therealnews.com/stories/trumps_deal_of_the_century

    Yes, they tried that in Oslo. Look how much more they are taking now. No, this just shows that Fascism is alive in both Israel and the US Government, It also as people are pointing out is an intended election winner for both Trump and Netanyhu.Israel has been building up for this over the past year or so. It is illegal. The US and Israel are both States who Ignore International law in their intent to colonise the rest of Palestine and ethnically cleanse or commit genocide on the rest of the Palestinian people. The US has been working on this situation for years through Clean Break, the intent to destroy ME states or divide them into tiny States so that none of them could stop Israel doing what she wants and Israel has no need to negotiate with neighbours or be on good terms with them. Iran is the country Israel still has to destroy.

    That 6,000,000 European Jews died so that this disgusting act of inhumanity could be done just shows how sick the world is.
     
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