Trump-Netanyahu’s ‘deal of the century’ revealed

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  1. Poohbear

    Poohbear Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Araft said he feared for his life if he accepted the Oslo accord.
    After this over 10,000 Israelis were killed or injured in terror
    attacks.
    So a lot of the violence comes from the base, percolating up.
     
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    Poohbear Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Only Communists use the term "Fascist" to describe everyone else.
    After Oslo over 10,000 Jews were killed or injured in terror attacks by Palestinians.
    It was a bad deal all round.
     
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    alexa Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I did not describe everyone else. I described Israel which is now wll known as a fascist state and I described the US Government.

    The numbers of deaths are

    https://israelpalestinetimeline.org/charts/

    Israel has given life changing Injuries to tens of thousands of Palestinians during this time. Israel kills and injures with impunity supported by the US.
     
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    Poohbear Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Here's the thing - on average the injured or dead Palestinian was attacking a Jews.
    The average dead or injured Jew was killed defending Israel or going about his own business.
    You need to define "fascist." I understand that Fascism is where the government controls
    business (think National Socialism - Nazis) as opposed to International Socialism, aka
    Communism which owns the businesses, and everything else you thought was yours.
     
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    alexa Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Nonsense.
     
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    alexa Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Israel spent her Holocaust Remembrance celebrations working to get States to attack the ICC for daring to investigate Israel's War Crimes. The vast majority of those who died in the holocaust did not support a Zionist on another people's land or anywhere else.. These Jews would never have committed the war crimes Israel is using their deaths to try and get away with. Israel used to call survivors 'soap'

     
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    Oh, if only it were true, peace might have a chance. But sadly it’s not. Peace will not come until Islam is destroyed as a military and political power.

    On this, we agree.

    This is just upside down ass-backwards nonsense—Israel fights and stands for freedom of religion and welcomes and invites Muslims to live, pray, prosper, own property, participate politically, and work in Israel—the Muslim theocracies, and their goon squads, Hamas & Hezbollah, in reply, scream with insane hatred: “Death to all infidels! Death to America! Death to all Jews!” Now, how do the moral reason with that kind of madness? They can’t.

     
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    Well then, trawl through the statistics - bus bombings, restaurant bombings,
    knife attacks, rocket attacks, rocket propelled grenade attacks.....
    And shootings of Palestinians by the IDF, usually at the border, usually
    under sniper fire or physical attack, targeting tunnels or rocket launch
    sites etc..
    I don't hear of Jews blowing up Palestinian buses or restaurants. Not
    many Jews went into the West Bank and began knifing Arabs.

    And the more the Arabs fight Israel, the more land they will lose.
     
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    If you are born and raised in a nation of dishonestly, you can know no better. Sublime lies are baked into the everyday life of the citizen in the U.S. Catchphrases like “our freedoms” “leader of the free world” “leader of democracy” leaves the citizen wondering why anyone would criticize the U.S. and its policies. Additionally, truisms such as “more guns equals less shootings” “suicide bombers are cowards” “Japan surrendered unconditionally” "WMD's were found in Iraq” "Castro was a Communist" “hot water freezes faster” and the dumb-downing is pretty much complete. So, why in hell would anyone want to criticize the U.S.? It can only be hate and jealousy, right?


    The Palestinians have had no say in their future. Actually, if my memory serves me correctly it wasn't the Palestinians who initiated the war against Israel from the beginning but Jordan et al. Subsequently the Palestinians had the war thrust upon them to the point that they eventually had no choice. But of course, the Israeli government knows all of this and are using the situation to their own advantage. But hey, if you understand that then it's because you just hate Israel.


    I think the worst part of this is that Israel is today acting more and more just as the Nazis claimed was the Jewish plan way back then. It is slowly, slowly, slowly creeping up on me that either the Nazis were on to something or it is just an unfortunate coincidence that Israel (I still refuse to blame Jews) is acting like imperialists to see how much they can gain by treachery. If those die-hard Nazis are able to peer out from their coffins you can bet they are smirking and thinking “I tried to warn them but they wouldn't listen!”
     
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    You act like there were no Jews in that area before the allies created Israel. Arabs didn't like the deal, they started a war, Israel finished in. Throughout history to the victor goes the spoils, woe to the vanquished. Yet for some reason some Europeans and Americans think Israel should bow to the demands of Palestinians. Can't be anything other than anti-Semitism.
     
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    WHO'S international law? I don't know any country that lives by international law.
    I do know one country openly flouting international law that's China with its
    artificial islands. The case was taken to the Hague but China just ignored it -
    even though it is a signatory to the conventions of the sea.
    Iran is also a signatory of the nuclear non proliferation treaty.

    In both cases tens of thousands of young people have demonstrated in
    international capitals for something to be done.
    Not.
     
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    What are you on about? Which “Muslim theocracies” are you referring to? I’m starting to think you get your ME knowing from “A tale of a thousand nights...”.
     
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    Oh, there were Jews alright. Just not Jews who spoke Polish, practiced communism, and had blonde hair and blue eyes.
     
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    From this video

    Trump's fake peace plan is Permanent Apartheid for Palestine


     
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    LOL--as compared to the terror of Hamas and Hezbollah? Compared to how they live now? Yeah, you're right--if I'm a Palestinian, I definitely would rather be ruled by Islamic tyrants instead of living free in Israel. That's because I am one sick demented masochistic bastard.
     
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    Is there any honesty in you at all?
     
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    Aha.....
    But those who survived the Holocaust and made their way to Palestine are devils ? a good Jew is a dead Jew ? lol
     
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    Sure let's wait a few more decades, time does good to your cause.....
     
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    The Palestinian's homeland is Jordan. They can go back....oh wait....the Jordanians don't want them either.

    If they don't like this deal, there's always Plan B....they can be wiped off the map.
     
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    How does what we see in the peace map makes only 6% ?? what's the 100% ??
     
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    It's a complex situation. The Jewish community relied on British colonialism to obtain a League of Nations mandate for a Jewish Homeland in Palestine. Jews and Arabs have been arguing ever since...some over the difference between the words "in" and "of."
     
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    Not complex at all. Liberty or tyranny? That's the only moral question to answer. Israel or Islamic religious tyranny?
     
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    So if I were to choose come over to your house, kick your arse, and boot you to the curb, the paper your waving around saying this is your house is meaningless? Because you didnt have the strength to defend it?
     
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    Destroy Islamic tyranny, and humans can live in peace and prosper. Destroy the only free nation in the Middle East, and the horror and terror of the Islamic theocracy will spread like a metastasized cancer. Is that what you are arguing for?
     
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    No, but breaking down a door to prevent someone from raping, torturing, and enslaving another human being doesn't require a search warrant--and your little piece of paper of ownership would be morally meaningless.
     
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