Trump Organization Finance Chief Called to Testify Before Federal Grand Jury

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  1. TomFitz

    TomFitz Well-Known Member

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    This is a far more imporatant development that looking at Trump's tweets.

    "Allen Weisselberg, a longtime financial gatekeeper for President Donald Trump, has been subpoenaed to testify before a federal grand jury in the criminal probe of Mr. Trump’s former personal lawyer, Michael Cohen, according to people familiar with the investigation. "

    https://www.wsj.com/articles/trump-...-testify-before-federal-grand-jury-1532622947

    But since the rest of the article is hidden behind a pay wall, here is some content that sums it up and which you can read!

    http://insider.foxnews.com/2018/07/...obe-weisselberg-knows-where-bodies-are-buried

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    Former Morris County, N.J. prosecutor Bob Bianchi said Thursday that two key employees of the Trump Organization likely "know where the bodies are buried" when it comes to any potential criminal activity that may or may not have occurred.

    Bianchi said that in any business the two most important people are the top attorney and the top accountant.

    Michael Cohen previously served as then-mogul Donald Trump's personal attorney, and Allen Weisselberg is the current Trump Organization CFO.

    Weisselberg has been subpoenaed to testify before a grand jury in the Cohen probe, the Wall Street Journal reported.

    The Journal also reported that Weisselberg helped facilitate the Trump Organization to pay Cohen, who had shelled out $130,000 to pornographic actress Stormy Daniels as a means to goad Daniels to keep quiet about an alleged tryst between the current president and the porn star.

    "Once [investigators] speak to [Weisselberg], they'll get to Cohen," Bianchi told Shepard Smith.

    Bianchi was referencing the probe centered in federal court in the Southern District of New York State.":

    With Trump, follow the money was always the path to follow.

    He signaled it at the outset by trying to hide his tax records and coming up with a series of very lame excuses for it (he's still using them, BTW). There is no doubt that Mueller has had these for some time, anyway.

    This will certainly bring up the money laundering, and expose Trump's long time association with a dubious cast of Russian characters close to Putin, the FSB and the GRU. The money laundering will come out, too.

    And then there is the mixing of funds between the Trump Organization and the Trump Foundation, which is already being investigated elsewhere.

    Bringing in Weisselberg opens up a veritable smorgasboard of documentation of both the long term sleazy dealings of Trump in business, and the increasingly probable collusion.
     
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    Follow the money folks! That's where the truth is.
     
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    What does this have to do with the election? And if Mueller is looking at any and all crimes then why is he only looking at Trump when the low hanging fruit is on Clinton's tree?
     
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    Kind of makes it a witch hunt.
     
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    The Russians owned Trump even before he rode the escalator.

    They hold all the paper on his businesses.

    They launder money through his properties with his knowledge.

    When Trump announced in 2015, I was already aware of Trump's dependence on Russians for his financing. It was fairly well known and commented on in the business press. And it had been going on pretty much since his father died. Don Jr and Eric weren't lying when they said that they were awash in Russian money.

    But I did not believe at the time that Trump would be stupid or arrogance enough to behave in any way that might suggest collusion, or even the appearance of collusion.

    That began to change in the spring of 2016, when Trump hired Paul Manafort. HIs ties to the Russians were also well known. Why any major Presidential campaign (for ANY party) would hire Manafort, with his past, was a question that I was extremely curious about. It flew right in the face of the idea that a campaign must avoid even the appearance of collusion.

    But I underestimated both Trump's arrogance and his stupidity.

    But then, he didn't expect to win, so he didn't think he had anything to lose. Moreover, the people around him were (and still appear to be) working on the assumption that they needed to cash in and get out before the whole house of cards collapses.
     
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    Oh, and this speaks right to the reason he has concealed his tax records from public view.

    Of course, Mueller has these records. And now, he's getting ready to talk to his bookkeeper about them. Expect him to be testifying before Congess next spring.
     
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    He's sure been screwing the Russians then hasn't he.
     
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    Well, well...............Welcome to YOUR White Water..............Suck it up buttercup, its all down hill from here on!...........and its funny.......
     
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    No, he has given them exactly what they wanted.

    Even with sanctions, Trump has slow walked the enforcement of the law, to Russia's benefit.

    Champagne corks popped in the Duma the day Trump got elected.

    Putin practically gloated as Trump kissed his ass in Helsinki.
     
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    ROFLMAO Oh yeah increased defense spending, increased sanctions, strengthening NATO, arming Ukraine, working to halt their pipelines just everything they want.
     
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    My Whitewater why is it mine? And you realize Whitewater/Madison Guaranty STARTED with a CRIMINAL REFERAL. Where was the criminal referal that started the Mueller investigation and now this? What is the crime here?
     
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    First of all, Trump did not increase sanctions.

    Instead, Congress shoved them up his butt. Even then he dragged his feet about signing a veto proof bill for two months, and has been doing his level best to delay implementation.

    Even before Trump took office, his minions were talking to the Russians about dropping sanctions (and lying about that).

    The Russians don't care that much about American military spending at the moment.

    They are actively fighting a cyber war against the United States. And that effort is going very well, with the tacit participation of the Trump Administration, which refuses to respond to it. (another Trump lie).

    But the Russians are almost certainly delighted to see that the US is borrowing 100% of the cost of their military buildup!

    In the Ukraine, Trump had his hand forced as well. He had no intention of providing military aid to Ukraine, and his campaign officials went to great lengths to remove support for arming Ukraine from the GOP platform in 2016.

    And his "arming the Ukraine" was limited to authorizing a $41 million sale (not aid) of small arms and a few anti tank weapons. It has not been repeated. and is not ongoing.

    I am not aware that the US is trying to halt Ukrainian pipelines, but there has been no change otherwise. The gas pipeline that the Russians and the Germans have been building for some time now (mainly to avoid supply interuptions from the countries the existing pipelines go through) continues, dispite Trump's bluster.
     
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    Follow the money...

    http://dailycaller.com/2017/11/01/h...-campaign-and-dnc-paid-for-the-trump-dossier/


    Russian collusion right there, and we're investigating Trump??? The swamp just keeps doing it's thing.

    The people see through this sham, and you'll be punished at the ballot boxes for it.
     
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    Yes the Russians do care about our shift to providing lethal weapons to the Ukraine us fighting their oil exports to Europe our closing consulates and kicking out dipolmats and our strengthening the NATO forces and our own. I don't think that if they were controlling Trump that is what they had in mind.
     
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    Yeah, Trump is being investigated for increasingly obvious collusion.

    There is no evidence that Fusion GPS collaborated with the Russian government, or their intelligence agencies, at all.

    Paying for opposition research is normal, and legal.
     
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    ANything uncovered that might be fishy is all due to a massive lie in the first place. Wonderful that the FBI can be potentially used to destroy political enemies now, on hunches=) Unless you're a former Potus and you threaten the AG on a noisy tarmac the night before your wife should be dragged off in cuffs.
     
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    Uh, actually, the last time the Russians expelled US diplomats was in response to our expulsion of their diplomats following the poisoning of a Russian operative in UK soil. Trump had to be shamed into that act of belated solidarity.

    Of course, he erased it by praising Putin in from Teresa May in the UK three weeks ago.

    They were not pleased the Trump was also shamed into not trying to block the sale of small arms and anti tank missiles to Ukraine. TRump dragged his feet there too. And, as I noted, it is not "our shift to providing lethal weapons" , This was one time arms sale in which the US government was not a party.,

    They don't care about Trump's bluster about the pipeline. That project is well along. Trump didn't slow it down or stop it.

    Putin already knows what most foreign leaders are finding out. Let Trump bluster to his American domestic base on TV, make broad pronouncements and put on a pageant, and Trump will go away.

    He hates to do the work, and he's bored with details. So, whether or not anything really happens is immaterial to Trump.

    He thinks its a TV show. And as long as they let him think that, they can go on with business as usual.

    The joke of a North Korea meeting in Singapore put that on display for the world to see.
     
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    Its not being disputed that the info came from Russian sources. Thats collusion with a foreign power to effect an election.

    The people see it through your spin. It's simply too obvious.
     
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    No, that is clearly not so.

    I doubt that Glen Simpson, who has been around that world for a very long time, would be dumb enough to do that. Nor is there any evidence that he had a vested interest in advancing the cause of the clent's client, except to get paid.

    Trump and his people clearly ARE that dumb. We have the evidence out there in the public domain.

    After all, the was doing exactly the same work for the Washington Free Beacon.

    Nor has any part of his work been refuted or disproven at all.
     
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    Only a fool would buy what you're trying to sell Tom.

    Paying Russian sources for info which might change an election. It's not even in dispute by any parties.

    That's collusion. The people know it.
     
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    Well, if that's the case, why hasn't Trump been removed?

    His collusion is all but obvious at this point.

    And, even if we were to accept your dubvious assertions, there is no evidence that anyone high in the Clinton campaign participated in any meetings with Russians.

    But every single major member of the Trump campaign did meet with Russians, and the entire rogues gallery was all hands on deck to meet directly with a Russian operative to get dirt on Hillary, months before this "dossier" even existed!!!!!

    Oh, and they all tried to lie their way out of it, too.
     
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    This is a big ****ing deal. He will likely be lying from the time his mouth opens...........

    RU kompromat on the mobbed up Trump family can take many shapes and sizes. All avenues will be exhausted by Mueller and ancillary investigations.
     
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    You would roast a golden egg laying goose because it’s feet were red instead of blue.

    A good portion of familiar faces that are screaming the loudest to oust trump are pedophiles. Just so you know who you are carrying water for.
     
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    Ok, what does Roy Moore have to do with this????????????????LOL....Your stuck in a rut bro....You own it, hes your pig of a president!...I am proud to say I never even thought once for voting for Trump.....Just from Howard Stern alone, he showed what a low life he was......But hes all your!....LOL!
     

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