Trump passes no insurance for abortions.

I'll boil that down for you: A ZEF should have rights ( THAT NO ONE ELSE HAS) and women should have none.

Fortunately, many people disagree with that...









I wonder if any of these "Ban Abortion and The World Will Be Saved" people actually think banning abortion will stop it....

 

Your opinion but it is more likely to be banned than not. The SCOTUS has avoided this for a very long time but the opinions of many justices over the last 50 years came to the same conclusions, too bad they weren't all on the same court. BTW the SCOTUS has reversed itself over 300 times in it's history.

 

OP is lazy poster

 

Obama actually went after abortion and birth control by putting the Federal Government in the abortion business, violating peoples' first amendment rights to practice their religious faiths. No one says a person can't kill their child ,,, just that the person wanting the kid killed has to pay the hit man.

 

FoxHastings said: ↑
I'll boil that down for you: A ZEF should have rights ( THAT NO ONE ELSE HAS) and women should have none.

Fortunately, many people disagree with that...


I wonder if any of these "Ban Abortion and The World Will Be Saved" people actually think banning abortion will stop it....

So you believe :" A ZEF should have rights ( THAT NO ONE ELSE HAS) and women should have none."" ???


And the Supreme Court should ignore the law, human rights, the Constitution and rule based on party affiliation.

And HAVE to ignore :
I wonder if any of these "Ban Abortion and The World Will Be Saved" people actually think banning abortion will stop it....

 

Your screed above is so riddled with holes it is difficult to know where to start.

So let's begin with the actual wording of the 14th Amendment that is germane.

https://www.law.cornell.edu/constitution/amendmentxiv

A FETUS has NOT been BORN therefore the 14th Amendment does NOT apply to a fetus!

How difficult is it to grasp something that OBVIOUS?

A CITIZEN is someone who HAS been BORN and therefore the 14th APPLIES to them. That means that it is UNCONSTITUTIONAL to pass any LAW that BANS abortions because that would ABRIDGE the rights of WOMEN to do with their pwn bodies as they see fit.

Neither you nor anyone else gets to DICTATE that a woman MUST remain PREGNANT when does NOT want to incur the burden of pregnancy and caring for a child.

HER rights, and yours, are PROTECTED by the 14th BECAUSE you are BOTH citizens.

The FETUS is NOT a citizen because it has NOT been BORN yet!

That is LITERALLY what the 14th Amendment STIPULATES in the FIRST 3 words.

YOU need to OVERTURN the 14th Amendment BEFORE you can DEPRIVE women of their RIGHTS.

No amount of blathering drivel is going to ALTER the LAW of the LAND.

 

the government does not pay for abortion, other than the cases of the women's health being at risk, always been that way

 

The government was forcing insurers to cover products and services that violate some peoples' religious principles with $0 out of pocket expenses --- which is the same thing. The federal government never belonged in the health insurance business.

 

"Leave me alone" is built into the underpinnings of the Constitution. It is not forcing anything down anyone's throat. It is an imposition on fascist progressives because forcing their beliefs on others is in their DNA

 

Complete and utter claptrap!

In order to have a HEALTHY economy there needs to be a healthy WORKFORCE therefore the Constitution EMPOWERED the Federal government OF the People to ENSURE the WELFARE of We the People.

Our SECULAR government provides for ALL of the people and since providing healthcare INSURANCE does NOT violate the 1st Amendment there is SQUAT that theists can do about it.

 

We the people of the United States, in Order to form a more perfect Union, establish Justice, insure domestic Tranquility, provide for the common defence, PROMOTE the general Welfare, and SECURE THE BLESSINGS OF LIBERTY to ourselves and our Posterity, do ordain and establish this Constitution for the United States of America.

LIBERTY means, for one thing, that employers provide the benefits that they choose to attract the people they need. It means that job seekers can choose the employer who provides the pay and benefits that are important to them. Nothing in the Constitution says that the Federal government has the power to force their religion or lack thereof down the throats of employers or that they have the power to trample the religious sensibilities of the people by forcing them under threat of usurious fines to subsidize acts of violence that fly in the face of their religious beliefs.

Again. "Leave me alone" is not forcing anything down anyone's throat.

 

you're talking about businesses that wanted to block employees from using the part of their insurance that covered birth control

this is why we need universal health care, so employers can't use health insurance as a means to push their religious beliefs on employees

 

Uh, is that anything like banning abortion in an attempt to FORCE women to gestate ?

Why don't righties "leave women alone" ?

 

so your pro-choice?

 

Oh please, enlighten me.

The 14th Amendment does not specifically exclude fetuses, there is nothing in the language that even suggests that. This is where the argument begins but there is so much more. There is much about the Constitution and the Bill of Rights that are broad and deliberately vague and subject to interpretation. The successful defense of Roe hasn't been in all of the original arguments about a woman's right to privacy (although that may be revisited if need be) it is the fact that abortion advocates have kept the issue of where life begins out of the courts. If a fetus gains status as a person and thus protected by the 14th amendment Roe falls apart. That has always been it's weakness and the only thing that has held it up. Roe hasn't stood because it's "settled" it is because advocates have successfully kept it out of the courts. With a 6/3 or a 7/2 SCOTUS Roe will be revisited and no doubt defeated.

 

For the UMPTEENTH time, LIBERTARIANISM always FAILS whenever it is tried!

The PREAMBLE does NOT begin with "Me the Person and some other dudes"!

WE the PEOPLE formed the Constitution and we STIPULATED the WELFARE of WE the PEOPLE which in NO WAY infringes on anyone's freedoms.

Either CHANGE the Constitution or find yourself an island where you can be all ALONE.

 

https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/fetus

https://www.law.cornell.edu/constitution/amendmentxiv

Your DENIALISM does NOT alter the LAW of the LAND one iota!

The 14th Amendment EXCLUDES the fetus because it has NOT yet been BORN!

FACTS matter, opinions that IGNORE reality are meangingless.

 

You mean things like like blood transfusion, organ transplants or amputation?

 

Nice irony, from the supporter of what has already murdered more than 55 million unborn American citizens.

 

Then return Roe v Wade to the states, instead of inventing laws which did not ever exist before that unlawful unconscionable decision. Let each state decide the morality of infanticide for themselves.

 

Ginsberg has cancer and Trump has four years ahead to reshape the Court for the next 40 years. So that first part's a given, at least one if not two Supremes.

The longer blue state governors play election games and call it COVID precautions, I see voter backlash in the swing-state votes and overwhelming Trump support where he had only tepid response, before. The Dems have lost the Senate, going in. The House may waver and even swing to the right, after more Joe and Jane Voters see how decrepit Biden has become.

 

More baseless DRIVEL!

When our nation was FOUNDED abortion was LEGAL!

That means that it was PROTECTED under the 9th Amendment.

The anti-abortion laws were UNCONSTITUTIONAL!

Nothing was "invented" because abortion has existed for as long as there are written records.

YOUR bible even DOCUMENTS an abortion procedure.

 

There are too many ignorant people to allow for this particular issue to be decided at state level.

 

I hope the left is very, very scared of that fact. The biggest issues MUST be decided locally. The decision whether to allow the cold-blooded murder of someone AT ANY AGE is a moral one. Leftists only worry about after it's born, unless it's a Democrat or unless it's a member of one of their favorite racial groups.

Individual state legislatures would certainly undo the Court's end-run around states' rights. Love that phrase. Tenth Amendment all the way.

 

We're Democrats and we know what you need and won't let you decide otherwise!