Trump passes no insurance for abortions.

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  1. MJ Davies

    MJ Davies Well-Known Member

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    Why do you get to make the rules?
     
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    Why do you believe it's only liberals who demand to have the CHOICE?
     
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    Leftists say that a lot about conservatives. Yawn.
     
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    Why do you think you can by supporting infanticide?
     
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    I don't support infanticide. I support the right to choose.

    I didn't post comments filled with self-righteousness telling the world what EVERYONE else should do because I believe it to be ONLY and RIGHT way to do it.
     
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    Why don't you believe in personal freedoms? Why do you believe a woman shouldn't be able to decide what to do with her own body?
     
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    We are not talking about what Leftists say - We are talking about you not knowing what the words that come out of your mouth mean.

    Nice attempt at deflection though :)
     
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    That's what he's not getting. He wants to dictate what women do with their own bodies, while people like you and I want women to be able to make their own choice on what to do with their own body.
     
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    After HOW many posts in this thread alone, and in other threads with titles having NOTHING to do with abortion --- and the leftists here all scream it's their right?
     
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    Well....for starters, I'm not a leftist and neither is my wife. While we would not have an abortion we still support others having the CHOICE. Basically we are for PERSONAL FREEDOMS with the govt leaving everyone the f alone.
     
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    I know what words mean. It's a human being. I believe that it's murder to kill it. I believe leftists VASTLY outnumber conservative women who support abortion. I believe conservative women who may not want to be mothers would still carry the child to term and let it be adopted---despite leftists' shrill that it will linger "forever" in the system.

    Right-wing men tend to marry the women they impregnate. Odd thing how many liberal men waffle around on whether THEY would do the same.
     
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    Noted. Non-interference is normally an eminently defensible position, until it gets to killing in the name of convenience, which abortion USUALLY is (aside from dead tissue being removed, which used to be called a D&CV if memory serves).

    I hear it a lot from leftists that it's so inconvenient to raise a child. And expensive. And time consuming and requires self-sacrifice. It's the willful choice to give up that freedom and to become a parent, in effect bound to that child until he or she can get out there on their own.

    Right wingers don't have any problem with that. Why do the left?
     
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    So, you accept choice in this instance

    How then is this different from say a eight week abortion with mifepristone?
     
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    Really?
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    Memory does NOT serve

    There are three procedures D&C, D&E and suction curettage (as well as a “medical” abortion) Now D&C is also used for a wide variety of gynaecological procedures including incomplete abortion (miscarriage). This is one of the reasons why abortion legislation DOES NOT WORK. Often difficult ti tell if the woman on the operating table is having an early abortion or removal of retained products of conception
     
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    "Those who did not answer are not shown."
    Walk me through that. They admit it's weighted, right there in print.
     
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    So what? You can clearly see those who DID answer that DON'T agree with their parties abortion policy.
     
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    I said, "as memory serves," and if you thought I meant I was sure when I use that phrase then you are mistaken. I recalled a term I hadn't heard in decades, and was unaware other similar procedures had other names.
     
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    A friend of mine had a miscarriage. She received a call from their insurance company to let them know they would not cover her abortion. They ended up getting it covered but the doctor had to send in all kinds of extra paperwork to prove it wasn't a matter of choice.
     
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    "Clearly see"...nothing. Walk me through it. 'SPLAIN it to me.
     
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    noted
     
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    Well you learnt something today and given the appalling level of knowledge in relation to this subject I would say this was a win
     
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    A zygote is not an infant. Neither is an embryo. The stage at which a fetus becomes viable outside the womb is entirely dependent on technology. A fetus becomes an infant when it's born. Thinking that life begins at conception is a religious belief, though it's my opinion that for most people today, being pro-life is strictly a political position, for the following reason.

    If life begins at conception, where is the pro-life crowd with regard to fertility clinic practices? That I never see pro-lifers protesting the freezing of infants tells me they're full of it, thus their position is political.
     
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  25. ECA

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    You need me to walk you through the graph? Do you not have the ability to read graphs?
     

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