Trump passes no insurance for abortions.

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  1. Derideo_Te

    Derideo_Te Well-Known Member

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    Venezuela only went down that road because of the GREED OBSESSED wealthy oligarchy that was EXPLOITING the hard working citizens of that nation.

    That is the SAME path that YOU insist upon FORCING our nation to follow.
     
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    Why do you think I have adoration for ACA? You mistake me speaking factually correct about ACA and healthcare and health insurance for adoration. That’s a silly assumption on your part.
    Sorry, but in the healthcare industry, providers are those who provide healthcare services and insurers are the payers of said healthcare services. I know this because I have been working in the healthcare industry for 30 yrs.
    The fact that you think our healthcare system which consists of PRIVATE health insurers is anywhere close to Venezuela proves you know nothing about the US healthcare system. In fact, I wonder if you even live in the US considering how much you don’t know.
     
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    Sooo, this epidemic of teen pregnancies is due to the lack of government paid contraception???? What was the rate before the freebies??? What was it before America lost it's sense of personal responsibility??? Do you know what tax dollars should actually be dedicated to? Infrastructure, Defense and Law Enforcement period. We've been traveling down this road of free everything so long that we have forgotten what responsibility is. Time was when you worked for what you needed and if you were unable there was assistance for that but it was a hand up not a hand out. Since the 1960s need turned into demand and a whole new sub culture of freeloaders were born and grew exponentially such that now everyone, regardless of their economic status feels entitled to government largesse. Who pays for it???? We are at the point where there are more people in the wagon than there is pulling it. Hard earned wealth is being eroded by confiscatory taxation and it's not going to Infrastructure, Defense or Law Enforcement. The bulk of it is pissed away on vote baiting via giveaways. America is literally falling apart yet all people can do is whine about their share of free stuff.
     
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    Really? Gee I thought it was because of Marxist Pie in the Sky from Bernie Chavez. Yeah America would be much better off with something like that which is the path YOU insist on FORCING our nation to follow.
     
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    Which is why I do so enjoy educating liberals on their many obvious shortcomings, starting with murdering children in the name of personal convenience. In their own words, "unwanted" means "inconvenient."
     
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    So what you're saying is that you agree that the ACA is actually crap? Please tell me how socialized medicine isn't a product of Socialism and all of it's many iterations. Please tell me about how much better the ACA is than what we have.
     
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    Why hasn’t every women who’s had an abortion been arrested for murder?
     
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    The Constitution explicitly STIPULATES that it is the RESPONSIBILITY of the government OF the People to ensure the WELFARE of We the People.
     
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    So you think ACA is “socialized” medicine? Holy f’ing christ. It’s utterly amazing how clueless some people are about the US healthcare system. Health insurance (excluding Medicare/Medicaid) in the US is run by PRIVATE businesses. How on earth is that “socialized”? Seriously, you’re not from the US are you?
     
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    You dearth of relevant subject matter knowledge is NOT my problem.
     
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    Differing state laws, probably. After the reelection, individual states can start working on that. Missisippi closing its one abortion mill, for example.
     
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    It is IMPOSSIBLE to "educate" others in a subject that where you lack the relevant KNOWLEDGE with respect to abortion and unwanted children so whatever you are "enjoying" it is NOT "educating".
     
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    In other words, it’s not murder.
     
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    So you intend to INCARCERATE about one MILLION women per year for "murder"? :eek:

    First off how do you intend to PROVE that there was any "murder"?

    What evidence of murder are you going to present to the jury?

    How are you going to collect this evidence?

    How will you be able to DIFFERENTIATE between a SPONTANEOUS abortion and an INDUCED abortion?
     
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    It's murder. The laws just haven't caught up.
     
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    How do "I intend"...? I'm not an elected lawmaker. That's where anything legal has to start.
     
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    To have a problem with birth control is rare in general. A catholic business owner may have a religious objection (I'm assuming) as I believe they feel .....well I'm not sure what their belief is but Catholics can have a lot of children....because some devout catholics have a problem with contraception.

    What is a more commen issue for devout Christian or muslim business owners might be paying for abortions which might include the "morning after" pill, which is designed to abort early just after the first start of human development.

    Either way, people can work where they are a best fit. The interview process is when people find out these types of things and both the prospective employee and prospective employer can decide if a partnership between the two are a good match.
     
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    Derideo_Te said:
    So you intend to INCARCERATE about one MILLION women per year for "murder"? :eek:

    First off how do you intend to PROVE that there was any "murder"?

    What evidence of murder are you going to present to the jury?

    How are you going to collect this evidence?

    How will you be able to DIFFERENTIATE between a SPONTANEOUS abortion and an INDUCED abortion?

    Nice dodge of all those INCONVENIENT questions :)
     
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    IOW's you have SQUAT and you are just trolling by calling it "murder".

    Got it!
     
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    It's not trolling when it's a rock solid lifelong belief. Killing innocent children is beyond just morally wrong.
     
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    Clever.
     
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    Maybe it would be helpful to see if the woman in question went to a clinic and had the baby pulled out of her? That doesn't sound "spontaneous".
     
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    The problem with birth control should be rare - but that is what the bill says. That the plans don't have to cover birth control.
     
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    Right. The plans dont HAVE too...meaning it's not REQUIRED which allows a very small segment of business owners to opt out if they feel it's important to do so. It's called freedom.
     
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    That needs to change.
     

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