Trump Pulls US Out Of Iran Deal

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  1. El Kabosh

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    good...now some more sanctions to hopefully curb their nuke ambitions!!
     
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    "Mr. Trump told French President Emmanuel Macron earlier in the day of his decision to withdraw the U.S. from the deal, The New York Times first reported, citing a person briefed on the conversation.

    By quitting the Obama-era agreement, Mr. Trump will set course for the U.S. to reinstate economic sanctions that had been waived under the deal, potentially adding new sanctions against the Islamic regime in Tehran.

    Mr. Trump has called the Obama-era agreement the worst deal ever made and has been threatening to walk away from it since he took office...."...>>
     
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    I'm trying to figure out why having Iran 8 years closer to a bomb doesn't make me feel better.
     
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    Yeah, because we know the best way to do that is to send the biggest terrorists on earth boatloads of cash and agree to all their terms.

    Worked for Dems in North Korea pretty good. Oh wait, no it didn't.

    Maybe we could give the same deal to MS13. We'll give you tons of cash and you let us know when we can check your houses for weapons and drugs.

    Idiots.
     
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    Who wanna bet another war started by America is going to happen in 5 years?
     
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    The schedule for PNAC foreign policy was to take down 7 nations in 5 years. Some african nations, including libya, but also Iraq, Syria and Iran. I think Iran was the last on the list. Save the biggest for last. I don't think trump was a neocon when he talked about this during his campaign. He just thinks it is a shi**y deal. But being surrounded by neocons, is sure to get him an "attaboy" and you know how trump loves the "atta boys". That is the problem that I perceive. He might wage war for compliments.
     
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    Anyone surprised?
     
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    This was on when I was reading your post and thinking that it had already been time:



    It's time to stop the evil...
     
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    We the world having reached to a consensus - tho de facto- that the "rule based order" and the "monetary system" attached to it are the main determinants of our standard of living, then that regime in Iran is subjected to change... They got nothing different than the Saudis. Even them Mecca radicals, and crazy North Koreans, have agreed on reforms... The world just can't afford the Moscow-spoiled Iranian sheria rule calling for war by poking Israel at the homeland via tons of terrorist proxies... No can do...
     
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    That would require an RP/DP establishment President.
    IOW, no aggressive war started by the US is likely before the 2020 elections.
     
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    It was a campaign promise.
     
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    Shortly the hardliners in Iran will gain support and power leading to persecution of those seeking democratic reform. This will lead to the rebuilding of their nuclear program and soon enough a nuclear bomb. With Iran missiles are no big deal in reality because they wont use them, instead they will use the terrorist ties they have and one of our harbor cities will become the first target. Meanwhile Lil' Kimmy will decide any agreement is pointless and develop an ICBM so we will get it from two different places....Thanks Uncle Donny....You certainly showed the Kenyan what for.
    The world just became a much more dangerous place for everyone, and I didn't even touch on what Israel is going to do.
     
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    I don't either. I can't believe you think they don't have the bomb.
     
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    so we are going to hurt one of our best allies against ISIS?

    ok
     
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    Nope.....no one said the Euros are pulling out of the deal. So how did you come up with that?
     
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    You must have forgot the Arms race that it would produce. Especially with the Saud going for a nuke and Egypt bringing their Nuke research facility back online.
     
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    Stupid and dangerous. But it does reverse Obama's greatest achievement which is the only reason Trump is doing it. Thankfully the rest of the world is honoring the agreement.
     
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    Ah yes another campaign promise fulfilled, and another part of BO the Peeps legacy thrown in the Shredder. Is there anything left other than his Neutered Special package?
     
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    Actually there was good reasons for Trump to throw it away.



    Obama’s Iran deal was written on water and Trump just drowned it.....


    In 2015, when a desperate President Obama decided to implement a deal with Iran in the face of fierce Republican opposition Congress (and even some Democratic defections), he was taking a gamble. The thinking was: either a pro-Iran deal Democrat wins the presidency in 2016 and keeps it in place, or the deal becomes so entrenched that even a Republican president wouldn’t have the guts to pull out.



    Today, Obama lost that gamble, when President Trump announced that he was withdrawing the United States and reimposing sanctions on Iran. In January, Trump set a 120-day ultimatum that he would be pulling out of the deal if Congress and/or the Europeans could not fix its fundamental flaws. Many thought he was bluffing. Even in the days leading up to the announcement, a number of informed observers had suggested that maybe he’d propose some sort of halfway measures. But on Tuesday, Trump followed through, promising to impose "the highest level of economic sanctions" not just on Iran, but on countries that do business with Iran, thus helping the regime's quest for nuclear weapons.....snip~



    Damn, 120 days and no one came up with anything to fix the deal. Sounds like a damn good reason Right there, huh? Oh well there goes that concept about not having a good reason.



    The Iran deal, which looked bad at the time, only got worse with age. Its central flaw was that in the name of getting temporary concessions regarding Iran’s nuclear program, the U.S. and world powers gave up on everything else. The deal allowed Iran to expand its ballistic missile program, finance terrorism, invest more in its conventional military, and more boldly meddle in Syria, Yemen, and Lebanon through its proxy Hezbollah. An obsession with preserving the deal at all costs handcuffed U.S. foreign policy, because any action in opposition to Iran could potentially be used by the terrorist regime as a pretext for pulling out of the deal......snip~



    Oh wow, more of those no good reasons that just doesn't make sense.



    The deal's defenders, and their friends in the media, have been promoting the idea that Trump’s move alienates allies and means the U.S. is reneging on its international commitments. Both arguments are disingenuous. None of those making these arguments cared when the Obama administration, in negotiating the deal, stuck it to Israel and Arab allies. Those allies will be overjoyed by Trump's move. Also, by following through on what he promised four months ago, Trump is actually communicating that he means what he says. Or as he put it today, "the United States no longer makes empty threats." ......snip~


    Oh my, 120 days and no one could show Trump the money or their cards. Then another good reason. The US not making idle threats. Imagine that.


    If anybody deserves blame for undermining the credibility of the U.S., it would be Obama, who negotiated an agreement on shaky ground without buy-in from Congress. That's what paved the way for Trump to pull out without having to appeal to Congress.....snip~


    https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/o...ust-drowned-it


    Holy Dartanian Batman......another good reason that says it all. My, my, my, just look at all those no good reasons that the defenders of the deal say doesn't exist.

    There goes the disingenuous theory that Trump was just looking at BO the peeps legacy. Which was nothing more than the Icing on the cake.
     
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