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Trump Pulls US Out Of Iran Deal

Discussion in 'Latest US & World News' started by El Kabosh, May 8, 2018.

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  1. clg311

    clg311 Well-Known Member

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    Most likely any victims will be in the Middle East while war pigs cash in and the cowards who supported state terrorism from a safe distance away will screech for more bloodshed.
     
    clg311, May 8, 2018
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  2. MMC

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    Post 20......we wouldn't want you to miss any facts. Nor be disingenuous like Most Iranian defenders are. But lets face that fact.....its all the Iranian defenders have.
     
    MMC, May 8, 2018
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    How does this help that? Seems it just makes it happen sooner.
     
    ronv, May 8, 2018
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    ronv Well-Known Member

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    I still didn't hear any ideas out of Trump. Did you?



    Did this address any of those concerns? No, It just gave Iran the right to restart it's program.


    Funny, I don't remember any 7 nation sign up with Israel that Obama threw away. Maybe a link?
    Making threats is not a reason.
    The problem with your argument is that additional deals could have been made without destroying this one. You could have put sanctions on, just like we could go to war - with an agreement that keeps Iran a year away from a bomb.
    I think we may have just been "Boltoned" ---- again.
    You didn't help. I don't feel safer. :(
     
    ronv, May 8, 2018
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    ronv Well-Known Member

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    It sounds like you are jealous of Europe. Why does it bother you that they get some business?
     
    ronv, May 8, 2018
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  6. scarlet witch

    scarlet witch Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I don't really see any clear winners here... except probably for Israel. Who'd have thunk, we all thought the US elected a Russian president... turned out they elected an Israeli one instead
     
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  7. MMC

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    Well once the Iranians are shown that they wont be able to keep their Nuke program. Then the others wont go making moves to up the ante.
     
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    scarlet witch Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    You know if someone tells me Trump pulled out of the Iran deal for oil.... I'll find that far more believable
     
    scarlet witch, May 8, 2018
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    If additional deals could have been made. Then why in a 2 years and half weren't any made? Bolton just came on the Trump team Trump has been making the same noise since he was campaigning. Besides Mattis and Dunford didn't change their minds.

    But you do feel safer with Iran having nukes and gaining hegemony in the ME, huh?
     
    MMC, May 8, 2018
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    Sounds like you are quite naïve as to how Iran increases its military capabilities.
     
    MMC, May 8, 2018
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    He must have some Arab in him too. As the Saud are praising Allah along with Trump. :lol:
     
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    Oh look... sanctions on Iran is good for oil prices... :rolleyes:

    https://oilprice.com/Energy/Oil-Prices/Goldman-Oil-Demand-Will-Continue-To-Soar.html

    I wonder who's going to fill the gap if Iran's crude is taken off world markets
     
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    its also VERY good for Russian finances
     
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    ronv, May 8, 2018
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    scarlet witch Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Well that would be due to the oil effect...guess after the second cup of coffee the oil price benefit was staring me directly in the face
     
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    You know there are many things Iran does I do not approve of, 1. the conservative hold on it's people and the Iranian economy and 2. Hezbollah and it's threat to the world and Israel.

    But I am not going got sit here and swallow lies about exactly why Trump is pulling out of this deal and the reason is not only due to this being a "bad" deal
     
    scarlet witch, May 8, 2018
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  17. El Kabosh

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    Trump is the exorcist....and Iran is the possessed evil. Let the head spin around a couple of times, then chop it off!
     
    El Kabosh, May 8, 2018
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  18. El Kabosh

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    Allies who only agree with us when there is something in it for them are not best allies!
     
    El Kabosh, May 8, 2018
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  19. Aleksander Ulyanov

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    Nope, Trump pulled out..

    Just like his old man should have.
     
    Aleksander Ulyanov, May 8, 2018
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  20. Aleksander Ulyanov

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    That will save the little girl
     
    Aleksander Ulyanov, May 8, 2018
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  21. El Kabosh

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    Of course the metaphor for the movie is not exact....the innocent girl is replaced by a cold-blooded killer who has no remorse!
     
    El Kabosh, May 8, 2018
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  22. Aleksander Ulyanov

    Aleksander Ulyanov Well-Known Member

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    What, other countries are supposed to do stuff for us out of the goodness of their hearts? Do we? Does any country for any other? Hell, do most PEOPLE just do things for you and not even say "ya owe me one?"
     
    Aleksander Ulyanov, May 8, 2018
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    This whole thing should serve as a warning about these executive agreements, or whatever they were called. What one president implements with the stroke of a pen can be just as easily undone.
     
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    There is a difference between the relations of individuals and those of nations....so your comparison is not valid!
     
    El Kabosh, May 8, 2018
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  25. Aleksander Ulyanov

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    The movie is a rather exact metaphor for nations whose populations are held in thrall by their governments, which was, in fact, one well known interpretation of the movie itself. The government of Iran are thugs but the PEOPLE of Iran are known to be one of the friendlier to Westerners in the Muslim world, they regard themselves as Persians, who were one of the more cosmopoltitan in the Ancient World.
     
    Aleksander Ulyanov, May 8, 2018
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