Trump should be denied intelligence briefings, Schiff says

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  1. Seth Bullock

    Seth Bullock Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I think he is a liar and a creep, and I'm not sure he's human.
     
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    Of course you would because he brought the goods (truth) about Trump.
     
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  3. Seth Bullock

    Seth Bullock Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Anyone who participated in the Russia hoax collaborated with the perjurers and corrupted officials. He was front and center. I have nothing but disdain for the creep.
     
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    PARTIZAN1 Well-Known Member

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    There never was any such thing as a "Russia hoax". Anyone who believes so needs to watch the video of the Helsinki news conference where Donnie crawled like a worm after trashing our US Intell agencies and licked Putin's boots while declaring Putin's innocence. Be near a toilet when you do that because any decent American will vomit after watching a POTUS crawl like a worm.

    The real hoax is the 4 years of lies that Donnie perpetrated against us the people of the US.
     
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  5. Seth Bullock

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    You deflected right off the lying little creep. WTF, Partizan??

    Is that who you want as the example of the Democrats? Seriously? I respect you, but I expected better from you than that.
     
  6. PARTIZAN1

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    No deflection here. I am very and have been very upset at the way Trump takes the word of Putin over our Intel agencies. You see this has always been all about Trump. He cannot stand it to have his ego bruised to admit that the Russians did have influence in the 2016 election. Trump ignores the criminal finding against anafort and the admission by the guy with the Greek name and Roger Stone. Remember that strawberry blonde Russian chick who had worked her way to make contact with the Trump campaign.

    Remember " Russia if you are listening......". ?

    We can and should respect each other as members we can have different opinions on Russia.

    BTW I am not a register Democrat I have been a Registered Republican for 20 years at least. I have no saywho represents the Democrats.
     
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    "Former presidents are traditionally accorded the privilege"

    EXCEPT--Trump. Denigrated the Office to such an extreme, that he is completely undeserving of such "privilege".
     
  8. Seth Bullock

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    Alright, well, I'm an Independent, not a Republican. I have my own beefs against Republicans, but I think that Shiff is a lying little creep, and he is the last guy in the world I would want to have speaking for me.
     
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    I think the idea is to keep them up to date in case a situation comes up where their experience or expertise could come into play. This is the same reason ex-intelligence heads like John Brennan used to to have security clearance. Trump took that away after Brennan repeatedly criticized him publicly.
     
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    Schiff is not a likable character I agree I would not even want him to be a spokesman a diarrhea medication but he is not stupid. He did not push for collusion in the last impeachment because he is smart enough to know that the bar to proove collusion or conspiracy is very high. And he knows that Trump did not personnaly get his hands dirty with Russia. Trump's connection to Putin/Russia almost exclusively appears when it comes to Trumps election. Denial of Russian influence in 2020 . In fact Trumps interaction with Ukraine comes down "do us a favor". Again it is him his election run against Biden. Trump is smart enough not to get his hands dirty. He does not have to because having Roger Stone, Rudy, and once Cohen and Manafort to do it.

    Let's face it the accusation of a fraudulent election is not about fraud, it is about Trumps attempt to stay in office. He knows he lost.

    I have worked as an election and am certified by my state. Trump in not the exact words called me an election fraud criminal.
     
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    We have a military prescence in Syria(and there's no proof of the bounties). If we want to declare an actual war on Russia, we should say so.
     
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    It's a no-brainer that the no-brainer stop getting top secret intelligence....should have happened 2 years ago.

    They can develop a PDB For Dummies version. He won't know the difference.

    It can contain the weather forecast for whatever golf course he is playing that week.
     
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    I generally agree with that, but I have no problem with the courtesy of formers getting enough developed information to stay informed for TV appearance or speeches. Trump has proven he cannot even be trusted to that minimum level.

    I wouldn't officially give him the time of day...
     
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    Eric Swalwell isn't a risk?
     
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    What's the factual, rational basis for this statement?
     
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    I don’t know what that is supposed to mean.

    McConnell made sure no evidence was presented, and the GOP in the Senate made a big show of pretending they never saw any.

    Pretending facts don’t exist, don’t make them go away.

    There is very little doubt that Trump was guilty of the charges he was impeached for the first time, and obvious that he is guilty now (and as time goes by it will almost certainly become more evident).
     
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    Ah. You're a victim of The Big Lie.
    ALL of the "evidence" presented to and in the house was read into the trial record. All of it.
    What evidence remained and why wasn't it presented in the house?
    Except for the fact the house had no direct evidence whatsoever that Trump actually did the things he was accused of in the first article, and that every President, by invoking executive privilege is guilty of the second.
    Ignoring, again, the fact the house has no direct evidence whatsoever that Trump actually did the things he was accused of.
     
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    You are basing your screed on the Fake News that Barr produced. You know that Barr was not the AG he was Trumps personal lawyer orwas that personal liar.
     
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    Of course because your biased, every ex president has worked with foreign entities. I don't think anyone that leaves government should be getting them. The only real purpose seems to be to make money off it.
     
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    It would be the smart move to deny Trump any info.
     
  24. signalmankenneth

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    A former president Trump won’t ‘need to know.’ Cut off his intelligence.

    Susan M. Gordon was the principal deputy director of national intelligence from 2017 to 2019.

    Every former president in the modern era has benefited from a unique national security perk after leaving the White House: routine intelligence briefings and access to classified information to support his continued involvement in advancing America’s interests. These briefings have been a matter of respectful convention and were granted by the new president to the old.

    But convention left the premises a long time ago with President Trump, and his demonstrated approach to national security and intelligence suggest that a more purposeful decision must be made about providing intelligence to this soon-to-be former president.

    My recommendation, as a 30-plus-year veteran of the intelligence community, is not to provide him any briefings after Jan. 20. With this simple act — which is solely the new president’s prerogative — Joe Biden can mitigate one aspect of the potential national security risk posed by Donald Trump, private citizen.


    https://www.washingtonpost.com/opin...b15c72-5747-11eb-a817-e5e7f8a406d6_story.html
     
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    What Schiff and media wont tell you is that these types of 'intelligence briefings' are the type of boring, low grade information you typically find buried in the deep sections of news websites. He might have a day or two advance on something journalists already have they're just putting the finishing touches on. To think that former Presidents have even remotely the same level of access to intel that they did while in office is just pure stupidity.
     

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