Trump Should Be Pacifying Crackpots, Not Inciting Them

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  1. Natty Bumpo

    Natty Bumpo Well-Known Member

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    A white supremacist who shot to death 50 Muslim worshipers in New Zealand cited Trump, who was endorsed by neo-nazis and hailed as their "Emperor God!" and "Glorious Leader!" as a "symbol of renewed white identity and common purpose."

    It is irresponsible for Trump to persist in provoking this element for his political purposes.


    Florida man arrested, guns seized over alleged death threats against Ilhan Omar, others
    A Florida man was arrested and charged Friday with allegedly making a series of threatening phone calls to Democratic officials, in which he ranted in explicitly racist terms about Muslims, black people and Rep. Ilhan Omar, D-Minn.

    John Kless, 49, of the Fort Lauderdale area, was charged with making an interstate threat, a crime punishable by up to five years in prison.

    Officials said that Kless made a series of disturbing phone calls on Tuesday, beginning, at 7 a.m. with a phone call to the office of Rep. Eric Swalwell, a Democrat from California, who recently announced a 2020 presidential campaign.

    “The day you come after our guns,” Kless said a voice mail, “is the day you’ll be dead,” according to the federal court complaint filed against him. He ranted about 9/11, “illegals coming in,” and used the n-word to describe people on welfare, prosecutors said.

    “You’re gonna die,” Kless continued, according to the complaint. “You’ll be your death bed…along with all the rest of you Democrats.”

    Prosecutors said he ranted at length about Omar... and using multiple racial epithets to describe both her and Tlaib. Prosecutors said he called Tlaib “Taliban,” and Omar a “**********.”

    “You know what, she’s lucky she’s just getting death threats,” he said, according to the complaint. “So are you. Alright?….’Cuz the day when the bell tolls….and this country comes to a war, there will be no more threats.”...

    Prosecutors said he added that there were “millions of us who hate you….for what you done on 9/11,” and both Muslim and black racial epithets against former president Barack Obama, as well...

    Prosecutors said Kless’s last threatening phone call of the day Tuesday was made to Sen. Cory Booker, D-N.J. He called Booker the n-word and other racial epithets, continued to rant about Omar’s 9/11 remark and made several violent threats, according to a transcript included in the indictment.

    “We need to kill all you,” he said, according to the transcript.

    Kless had previously made a harassing phone call to Rep. Nancy Pelosi’s office where he ranted about people taking away his guns, abortion, illegal immigration and Muslims in Congress, the court complaint said.


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    FBI says Robert Chain made 14 calls to the Globe in August after the newspaper called on other news outlets to take a public stand against Trump for routinely calling media the "enemy of the people."

    According to court documents, Chain echoed language that has been frequently employed by President Donald Trump in his phone calls to the Boston newspaper.

    In one such phone call, according to the documents, Chain said, "You're the enemy of the people, and we're going to kill every f---ing one of you. Hey, why don't you call the F, why don't you call Mueller, maybe he can help you out buddy. ... I'm going to shoot you in the f---ing head later today, at 4 o'clock."

    https://www.businessinsider.com/robert-chain-boston-globe-threats-trump-enemy-of-people-guns-2018-8

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    In late October 2018, sixteen packages containing pipe bombs were mailed via the U.S. Postal Service to several prominent critics of U.S. President Donald Trump, including leading Democratic Party politicians such as former U.S. President Barack Obama, former U.S. Vice President Joe Biden, and former U.S. Secretary of State Hillary Clinton. Other people who were sent packages include U.S. Representative Maxine Waters, U.S. Senators Kamala Harris and Cory Booker, former U.S. Attorney General Eric Holder, two former intelligence chiefs (ex-CIA Director John O. Brennan and ex-Director of National Intelligence James Clapper), billionaires George Soros and Tom Steyer, and actor Robert De Niro. One package was addressed only to CNN and sent to its world headquarters.

    Rightwing media entertainers - Limbaugh, Coulter, Savage, Dobbs, etc. spewed their usual ideological conspiracy bs - causing the unstable Trump Jr to parrot them: "False flag! False flag! False flag!"

    The Trump fanatic, Cesar "False Flag!" Sayoc, awaits sentencing.


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    "Oh, yeah!
    Well, what about them LIBRALS
    makin' a dang Trump blimp, huh?"
     
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    Spooky Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    If this man had quoted Hillary or Obama before the shootings would you hold them accountable or would you say it was the ravings of a madman?

    Fair is fair here.
     
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    Imaginary diversions fail to honestly address reality.
     
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    Trump is sending all left wing socialists a Happy Easter card and "Get Well Soon" letter with a coupon for 2 free cupcakes at Bernie's Bakery.
     
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    And what reality would that be?

    You trying to attribute every hate crime to a president as if hate never existed prior to that?
     
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    Brenton Tarrant was a left-wing eco terrorist. He says so in his manifesto. He believes in worker rights, anti-imperialism, environmentalism and responsible markets. All four of those things are extreme left-wing ideologies. Also, in his manifesto he specifically states that he used guns as a choice to kill with to spark debate in the U.S. to have the 2nd Amendment abolish. What right-wing person would want that? NONE!!!!!

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    :bored:

    Stay ON TOPIC, please.

    Is all that the RW has remaining for "rebuttal" just more lame deflection?:bored:

    The OP is spot-on.

    Trump is inspiring Racial Hatred (Worldwide).
     
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    Did he inspire racial hatred in you?
     
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    "Workplace violence" :roflol:
     
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    Exactly.

    There were more mass shootings under Obama then Trump so I guess Obama inspired mass shooters.
     
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    The NZ shooter had absolutely nothing whatsoever to do with Trump. He liked the false media narrative of him as someone of their ilk. That's on CNN, not Trump.

    Trump is responsible for his own actions, not those of others. Just as Democrats are not responsible for someone high on their rhetoric shooting up a baseball game.
     
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    Xenophobia, and religious bigotry are NOT = white supremacy.
    Hello! :phonecall: online dictionaries are FREE! The NZ victims were caucasians. Some human tissue is highly sensitive, and easily damaged by the oxygen deprivation that occurs whilst hyperventilating.
     
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    "Oh, yeah!
    Well, what about... , huh?"

    Should Trump be pacifying crackpots or inciting them?
     
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    "Oh, yeah!
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    Should Trump be pacifying crackpots or inciting them?
     
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    "Oh, yeah!
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    Should Trump be pacifying crackpots or inciting them?
     
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    Should Trump be pacifying crackpots or inciting them?​
     
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    Natty's bumpo'd his own thread. Good rebuttal.
     
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    That's a lot of diarrhea of the mouth. Have you noticed how everything is becoming a symbol of the neo-nazis lately. A little green cartoon frog the okay symbol milk clowns red hats. I was surprised the NPC meme wasn't somehow made into a white supremacist thing by the news media.

    The more you screech about this the harder everyone laughs at you.
     
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    Trump sure knows his base...he uses the word socialist to scare them and they’re not bright enough to understand
     
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    The desperate need to divert the thread's topic is amusing.


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    Should Trump be pacifying crackpots or inciting them?
     
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    True to form Natty ... you actually haven't illustrated any pacification. The contents of your posts do not coincide with your defamitory title.
     
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    This video does a good job summing up the OP.

     
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    Are you serious?white supremacists are xenophobic (unless they’re white Christians) and anti semites. I wouldn’t talk about oxygen deprivation....I would educate myself
     
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    Natty's on PF's Bunko squads list of 10 most wanted ...
     
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    How many of them could be packed into a Trumpmobile to hide from simple, direct questions?

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