Trump threatens shooting of Central American migrants who throw stones

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  1. HumbledPi

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    "contagious diseases" like smallpox?
     
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    LOL ....

    And what is with these 42 millions now? We forgot these digtis very fast and hide it from now on because refuted ... but come with some other BS arguments and statistics?

    Let's go to the question of cause and effect as an answer to your numbers, eh?

    Many of the refugees here come from Hondur, right? Then let's have a look at the reasons ...

    In 2009, the Hindu military made a coup and ousted the democratically elected president and sent him into exile. Since then, there is not only a brutal dictatorship instead of democracy and legal state ... but it is since then one of the most dangerous countries in the world, where the population is also totally impoverished and getting poorer ...
    Ok ... that happens a lot in the world and you could say as an American now "who cares, their problem" ... but that does not work here! Why?

    Because the glorious United States have massively supported this coup and since then ... still under Obama started up to today ... as always cares a crtap about the consequences! Haoutsoache the unloved president is gone!
    And now the Hondurians are fleeing to the USA ...

    Cause and effect! Might not be better to stay out of the affairs of others like Honduras ... especially since the US is the only one here that supports the regime!
     
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    Sure they immidiately jumped to the worst posdible conclusion possible
     
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    Oh ... and did I bring my country - Germany - here suddenly into the subject or you, eh?

    And yes ... lost twice ... once unfortunately (WW-1) and once fortunately "WW-2).
    But it's interesting that we Germans are always the bad for you as well, as long as we do not shut up and submit to your will ... and pay as much as you want! Unfortunately the times are over and you have to learn this slowly!
     
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    TB or anything else they are sporting. Don't worry, I'm sure they will be open and honest.
     
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    Do you see any caravans of people flooding into Iran by the thousands? They don't care about international law either. They'd shoot the MFers. Why do you think the "middle east migrants" are skipping all the Muslim countries to go to the EU?
     
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    That's not what was asked. The caravan is looking for the handouts, and will be violent towards those who resist.
     
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    Neither are parts of America. Put these "refugees" in the bad parts of Detroit and see how they like all the gang violence. It might feel just like home.
     
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    Did they give you a cushy retirement for your service?
     
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    Did you want to say the Census Bureau got it wrong? You're the one going by what some leftist told you. 42 mil. I think if you actually did some research. You could have shown that the leftist was quite light on the numbers.

    Yes Bo the Peep's Administration is the cause of the increasing influx.

    Corruption in Honduras has to do with Business and the government. It is not that government of Honduras is oppressing its people, and there is no civil war taking place.

    So what is their excuse for Asylum again? As.....I want a better life and a better job. Just doesn't cut it.

    Hey.....Im all for cutting any money off to Honduras. Guatemala. El Salvador and to Mexico. Of course I am also for cutting any money off from Germany too.

    This way when Germany asks for help. We can tell them take a hike. Handle your own **** for a change. Quit relying on others to protect you. Handle your own business.
     
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    Well since you were confused as to who the Superiors are, and couldn't figure out who are the Superiors. That falls on you.

    In this day an age, the US understands that all Germany can do is talk. Like our leftists and not think of what comes out of their pie holes. So its nothing to take as important.

    Plus Mexico was influenced by Germany. Which for me is a good reason not to trust Mexico with anything.
     
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    The Demos and their Collective are going with just the one tactic for ALL issues. Bigotry baiting. Its all they got. Doesn't matter the issue.
     
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    Did you get ... that these 42 millions are bull****?

    And we all know that the USA is world champion to mess up other countries due to own interests and then give a crap on the result for the people! Only since the US backed coup in Honduras, the crime rate is as high like mad and as the people become more and more poor in Honduras ... but I know, the US makes a shrug about as usual!

    And in case of Germany, no worries ... you can cut off money from Germany as you want, because there is no money you give to us, but in reverse we pay you much and maybe we can cut off!
    And asking you for help is superfluous ... please note that I am for an end of NATO and the US try to control us with it. Since your dumbass is in White House, I am over with the American Way of Life and dream, what is at least a nightmare!
    And btw ... the last time you asked us for help, no we asked you... but ingratitude is also an American virtue as we still have learned
     
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    You misunderstood my comment. Furthermore you capitalised on it to grandstand. Wrong wavelength good buddy
     
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    You are superior? Lol .... this joke was good! OK ... then nuke us please, because this is the only thing where you are superior and only because we respect your will not to arm ourself with nuclear weapons!

    And yes Mexico was hopefully influenced by us, because we learned that if you trust the USA and their word and as a partner, you are lost! But even if not ... your dumbass in White House gave them all reasons to be annoyed about the USA! And please note ... if the change in our political landscape goes on, be sure that you will wonder for the future! The times where we submit to you in the USA are for all times over!
     
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    Trump is a racist. Trying to defend him on this is to disregard his entire life. Ask any minority person in the class he has offended, generally, they say the same thing about racism. No one can read what’s in someone’s heart and it’s totally irrelevant to the offended person. People in power are racists if they demagogue and promote any activities that promote one class over another REGARDLESS of their motivation. Motivation means nothing and it doesn’t matter how many black or Jewish, or Hispanic friends Trump has.....he’s a racist. Let’s not sugar coat and excuse a persons activities by pretending we know what’s in their heart. Actions speak louder then words.

    He is surrounded and followed by racist elements for one reason; racists think he’s a racist. Make no mistake.....ideas like birtherism are racists.
    https://www.vox.com/2016/7/25/12270880/donald-trump-racism-history
     
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    "So, will you volunteer to be a - rock test dummy? Stand between the soldiers and sweet innocent rock throwers to prove rocks are harmless?"

    No, I absolutely did not misunderstand the meaning of your comment. You gave me a dare as to whether I'd be willing to face mythical 'rock throwing' bone-weary women, children and men. That's not true whatsoever, so I would have absolutely zero fear of that ever happening. THERE ARE NO ROCK THROWERS!! Get that through your head. That's FAKE NEWS drummed up by Trump to scare the living crap out of you and it WORKED!
     
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    Straws and fructose are very, very serious -- for ants and nuts. Opioids and harmful street drugs everywhere but lets get dat sweetener and tie the hands of the police.
     
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    Whatever I received in the form of a weekly paycheck was hard earned and actually none of your damned business.
     
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    That sounds like greed talking. You should share your wealth.
     
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    Granted, and no doubt, that some racists, KKK, neo nazis perceived trump as being one of them, just as people who believe in communism perceive the democrats, or someone like Obama, as being one of them, that is a faulty perception, and some people will perceive such things, regardless. I never saw one instance of something that trump said in a campaign speech as him being a racist. But then, I lived under real deal racism in my youth, and it is so easy to discern.

    You have the KKK and the neo nazi crowd( a very small crowd) that hate jews, and yet trump's daughter is married to a jewish guy, his grandkids will be jews, and trump is a ally of israel, unlike obama was. That the Left would blame trump, including MSM, for the killing last weekend of jews, attending a worship service is just the ludicrous side of sh*t hitting the fan, and reveals just how crazy the Left has become. And I am more left of center than right of center, although on some issues, I find myself right of center today, on issues like illegal immigration and the refusal of either party to abide by the rule of law and investing the needed funds to allow that to happen.

    And remember, the democrats once were against illegal immigration, for it hurt american workers, as that labor guy in Ca, a mexican american, pointed out when he worked to keep illegal mexicans out of Ca, because it hurt mexican american wages and standards of living when it came to agricultural workers. But when the dems stopped representing ALL working americans, they became pro illegal immigration, regardless of what they will try to tell us. The dems want illegals from south of our border to come in, and one day be legalized for they will more than likely vote fo dems. To hell with the People, just give us future voters so we can get and maintain power. It is appalling what these bastards do, in DC.

    It is so transparent what the DP wants, when it comes to illegal immigration. And then you have republicans like the Koch brothers who want illegal immigration for business, and profit margins. And the GOP has given them what they want, until trump made an issue of it. This is so self evident, and yet people just cannot or will not see the obvious.
     
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    So just more fake news from the Trump fanboys who will continue to spread this fake news and in doing so will encourage the far right to murder which is exactly what Bowers did after hearing Trump's encouragement
     
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    Definitely there is a problem with Trump's inflammatory words - lead to murder of Jews by Bowers and sending packages to terrorize Dems by Saroc
     
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    It is quite easy to spot a real racist. For there will be quite a bit of hard evidence, by actions, to evidence that. You have non if any. So stop it. Just claiming it exists is nothing more than an accusation that lacks evidence. Show me the evidence, that is not a figment of a partisan imagination and I will change my mind. Evidence is demanded for extraordinary claims, and simply stating an opinion, lacking such evidence is intellectual dishonesty, or partisanship, with is basically the same thing.

    Perhaps your crowd doesn't need evidence, but some of us, demand it. Or we discern something else is going on. Just because some people say he is a racist, without proof is much worse than what you accuse trump of being. He is many things, and not at all acceptable, but a racist? If I saw a racist when it comes to trump, I would call him out on it, big time. But I would need hard evidence before I made such a claim.

    So present it, but so far, what I have seen coming from your team is just absurd, and doesn't pass the test as being evidence. Indeed, I have seen his words being used to prove he is a racist, while his words did nothing of the sort. It is your imagination, unless you can prove it. Irrefutably. Just imagine you are in a court of law, sir. And give it your best shot.
     
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    Err...firstly I'm 12,000 kms away, what reason would I be afraid?
    " ....to prove rocks are harmless? Those words do not dictate your claims of heroism by rendering aid to injured people. It is to ask that rock throwing can be dangerous. You went ahead with your soapbox of work history (and no PI is humbled by such advertising of the fact), that you've twisted words to suit your "white knight...I'll save the world", dogooder ranting. Dear Humbledpi....try more humility. Your work record means zilch.
     

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