Trump to address nation regarding the national security crisis on the border

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  1. US Conservative

    US Conservative Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Those who care about the harm of illegal immigration have already donated over 300K to the widow.

    But I suspect she and her 5 month old son would prefer to have their father back.

    Another family broken up because of illegal immigration.
     
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    US Conservative Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Wrong.

    While its true that synthetic opiates are produced here, most of those involved in drug deaths are obtained on the black market, including pills smuggled across the border.
     
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    US Conservative Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    We will see, but most will watch via other means.
     
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    When I wised up and went into group therapy for drug addiction, I thought the people in the group would be a bunch of pill poppers. Instead, they were almost all alcoholics, like me. You're not going to solve this problem with walls or border security. People will always find a substance and a way. There's something fundamentally wrong with this society. Everyone knows it. Look at how on edge we all are. Trump is a symptom, not a cause. I have my own theories about this, but that's for a different thread.
     
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  5. US Conservative

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    You have a valid point but so do I.

    I also practice medicine, have a narcotics license, and am required to stay up to date on these things.

    Its even stricter here in California.
     
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    guess Mexico not paying for it

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    Purdue makes Heroin???
     
  8. US Conservative

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    Could this be over Ruth Bader Ginsbergs failing health?
     
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    You think we are mind readers? Tune in, Silly!
     
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    And yet, he whipped your asses!

    If most of the spineless politicians in Washington acted a bit more fearful, Kate Steinle, Mollie Tibbetts, and Ronil Singh would likely be alive. Singh, a California police officer killed by an illegal alien in the line of duty last week, emigrated from Fiji, a country I bet is safer than the Golden State.
     
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    And you conveniently leave out that a full 35% of all opioid OD's are from Rx'd narcs procured through a licensed M.D. And, that virtually no one starts there opioid addiction on synthetic Fentanyl, illegal, blackmarket, or otherwise.

    It is an easily traceable chain of events: Injury: Opioid Rx: Addiction: Cutoff: Illegal Substitution (Fentanyl and other black market drugs)

    Opioid addiction in America starts in the doctor's office.

    Where one ends up scoring their dope from is secondary.
     
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    I've seen over 1 year of bad images and dumb meme's from you guys (and a few from my side), but this might take the cake... But I did chuckle, so it's all good....
     
  13. US Conservative

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    Im pretty sure I said most.

    And I didn't say most start their addiction on fentanyl.

    It is used to "spike" other opiates/narcs due to its high potency.

    That also means inconsistent dosing.

    I just went through a 2 day course on this and practice medicine.

    But I mean you probably know this, right?
     
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    So true.
     
  15. US Conservative

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    It was apparently a leftist attempt at a meme. (lefties are trying to crack the meme code)

    And it too backfired into awesomeness.
     
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    Well, that plus the thought of Trump with actual human hair...
     
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    ...and thats why the left can't meme.
     
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    Still, you tried, and failed, to frame the problem as one of "illegal, blackmarket, synthetic opioids from China brought here through our, gasp, unsecured southern border." Paraphrasing mine.

    You will, literally, try anything to justify this unneeded, colossal waste of money.

    To hear you talk, this border wall is going to solve every problem facing America today.

    Guess, what, doc? You've been had by a failed TV game show host, and you can't even see it through your schoolgirl crush.

    Oooh, you sat through a "2 day course", did you? Wow. I guess you're the expert now....lol. How many CME's did that score you? Was the lunch buffet worth it?

    I assess 40, or more, COWS scores daily. I hear the same story over and over: "I hurt my back at work and the WC doc gave me percs, and once those were gone I went searching the streets". Every. Single. Day.
     
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    History is written by and for the literate, so while we are all laughing our asses off at the circus of buffoonery that went on after it’s all over, Trump and his Trumpettes will continue living in their alternate reality - the one where Trump is a successful businessman :roflol:
     
  20. US Conservative

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    Lol at framing the problem.

    The problem is what it is, and you either know about it or you dont.

    I wish it had a lunch buffet, but those are usually provided by drug companies, and I don't usually go to those.

    If you are assessing patients, you might be in healthcare (guessing a tech of some sort).

    And if you do, you should know not every doc is prescribing opiates.

    You should also know that many seekers will say anything.
     
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    Its pretty safe to say Trump is a successful businessman.
     
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    Oh, I know about it. I work within the problem every day.

    You spent two days at a conference and didn't get lunch? Even us lowly MSN's get a platter of stale turkey wraps.

    I "might" be, but you ain't an MD, otherwise you'd know what an assessment is, and who is qualified to do them.

    I never stated that they do, and I believe in opiate therapy when appropriate, even if it leads to addiction (or dependence, or tolerance, depending on the situation). Hospice being one example.

    Yes, I do. However, the fact that I'm doing COWS scores daily should have been an indication that I am dealing with addicts that do not have a an illegal, or legal, opiate source, hence the COWS assessment.
     
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    I like nurses.

    Im years ahead of nurses.

    Id suggest they enjoy the hen house.
     
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    Spoken like a true misogynist.

    How much pu$$y have you grabbed in your illustrious career?
     

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