Trump to recognize Jerusalem as Israel's capital, forge ahead with moving US Embassy

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  1. MrTLegal

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    These two ideas, in concert, are a tremendous part of the reason why peace in the middle east will be unobtainable and made even more difficult following this move by trump.
     
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    David Ben Gurion and many others since claim the Palestinians are descended from Jewish farmers who didn't leave Palestine.
     
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    Much like the Paris Accord and tax cuts and travel ban, we have a near unanimous agreement from the relevant experts and stakeholders that Trump's plan is a bad one which will damage relations and US interests.

    But Trumpettes will only listen to Trump.
     
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    Interesting.

    I've seen enough of your posts to recognize this as an area of special knowledge for you, if you dont mind me asking, what is the source of your knowledge and experience? Why do you know so much about the region?
     
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    It's not true. And even if it were, that doesn't excuse apartheid.
     
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    It's quite simple, really: All of the nations of the world think it's an ass-headed move, 'xcept 'murricca and their zionist masters.

    The rest of the world must be mad, of course.
     
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    Would you follow up on your cowardly advice yourself?
     
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    In the early 1950s I lived in Arabia and there were lots of Palestinian families who worked in community services or middle mgmt.. My Brownie and GS troop had clothing drives for Palestinian children .. and I saw the refugee camps in Beirut.

    Years later I went to the Holy Lands with my Sunday school class for three 2 weeks visits before the Six Day war.

    Shlomo Sands also makes the case for Palestinians being descended from Jewish farmers.
     
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    I suspect they have had a place picked out for years .
     
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    And logically, which side would you say should bend?
     
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    They already tried to do that under Morsi.
    No way will Egypt give away the Sinai to the Palestinians.
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    I can't imagine why they would.
     
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    The decision to disregard the rightful claim of Israel is based on bigotry, fear of Muslim retaliation, cuckold characteristics, or all of the above.
     
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    If there was to be a Jewish country after WWII, the natural solution would have been something between Poland and Ukraine. But the problem would be the same: "Jewish country" must mean "Apartheid", to get rid of these unclean goyim. That's why Jews in general were always so welcomed by their neighbours. But goyim being no Chosen People, they can't understand.

    Palestinians are about twice as semitic as the Ukrainians who invaded them, after being disarmed by the Occident.
     
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    Feel free to support the push of Israel into the ocean. Its possible one of their 500 nukes wont hit where you live.
     
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    Palestine was overwhelmingly Arab for 2000 years. Perhaps the Jewish refugees from Europe and Russia should have treated them with more kindness and respect.

    Are you a proponent of immigration to the US?
     
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    Israel has probably put thought into it at one time or another.

    As for our side, perhaps Obama pondered were the consulate of Palestine would go ...but that's it.
     
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    Russia also gave them a large track of land with water, farmland and oil reserves.
     
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    It's not the Jews that are the problem: Jews have been living in the levant and they were well-treated there compared to what they were living in the occident before WWI.

    The problem is the zionist regime of Israel. That regime must be eliminated for the world to live in peace - there can be no peace while Israel lives as a cancer bent on apartheid and lebensraum. It must be eliminated like the Nazi regime - not the Germans - was eliminated in 1945, for it is an aberration, an abomination, no matter how many high rise glass buildings they may erect.

    Finally, I fear no nuke. Yours, Israel's, Iran's, NKs - they're all the same to me.
     
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    Are you suggesting we take the ~9 million Israelis into our country?
     
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    You compare the Israeli quest for safety to the Nazi Reich when it is the Muslims who, on a literal daily basis, kill and maim Israelis in the the land that is their home.

    Take a look, if you will, and recognize the foolishness of that statement.

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    The population of Palestine doubled in 15 years with the influx of Jewish refugees and the US thought that was a fine idea.. You know, let the Palestinians pay with their blood and soil for the Holocaust in Europe.

    But, actually, I was wondering how you felt about 20-30 million refugees coming to the US from anywhere.
     
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    If America is to be the dumping ground for 3rd worlders then America is to become a 3rd world nation.

    So my opinion on refugees will always be based on the individuals ability to support themselves and act with the degree of decency typical to our values.
     
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    Well, then I guess it was a pretty stupid move from the zionists' part to barge in and start aggressing all of their (disarmed) neighbours, huh?

    Israel practically invented contemporary terrorism - that's just one of Israel's "gifts" to the world along with perpetual ethnoreligious cleansing, in the ****in' XXIst century for crying out loud. Better, the people that once headed their terror organisations were overwhelmingly voted in as Prime Ministers afterwards. Who lives by the sword...

    :applause:
     
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    Make it 30 million people of a same, different faith, armed, aggressive and xenophobic about their innate superiority, too. Then let them take, say, California while they evict everyone there.

    Would you believe the, eerrr, "brave person" you were answering to when he said he will meekly seek another home with glee and no compensation whatsoever if that happens?

    Me neither :)
     
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