Trump Trounces Obama Approval Rating at Same Point of Presidencies

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  1. Rush_is_Right

    Rush_is_Right Well-Known Member

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    Doesn't matter, Trump will be re-elected.
     
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    Bush Sr got beat by Clinton. Obama won his second term.

    And then you change the subject because you have no response to the fact that Obama was and is still more popular than trump ever was or ever will be.
     
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    BuckyBadger Well-Known Member

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    Trump did beat her as he is sitting in the Oval office. :)

    I am always amazed at how few people actually understand how our election process actually works. Perhaps you should read a document called "The Constitution".
     
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    BuckyBadger Well-Known Member

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    Yes, Bill Clinton was President. Monica knows that too.

    Trump is more popular at this stage than Obama was.

    Sorry, but they are facts. :)

    Try and stay on topic.
     
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  5. Rush_is_Right

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    And Trump will be impeached and re-elected, like Clinton. LOL
     
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    perotista Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I look at the poll numbers and saw an extremely close race. I haven't a clue as to where those political pundits were getting their information. Perhaps they were only going by what their view audience wanted to hear from them. You know, keep the ratings up. I don't know.
     
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    perotista Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    But did they? I don't think the polls were wrong, almost all of them were well within their margin of error from their predicted result and the final result. I showed you that.

    https://www.realclearpolitics.com/e...s/general_election_trump_vs_clinton-5491.html

    Now how those pundits interpreted the polls could be an entirely different matter. Perhaps those pundits stopped looking at the polls on 31 Oct 2016 or just ignored the final weeks polling results. I don't know, you're guess is just as good as mine. Maybe those links you showed me should be titled "How the political pundits got it wrong." They certainly weren't looking at the same polls as RCP published daily. That much is for sure. Pew is talking about how the forecasters got it wrong. Perhaps heart over the numbers?
     
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    BuckyBadger Well-Known Member

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    I followed the election pretty closely and thought Hillary would win in a landslide. I firmly believe that the DNC stuffs ballot boxes, pays off election officials, cheats, lies, steals and corrupts our system. Couple that with all of the media coverage, letting Hillary walk on some very serious charges, coordination with the DOJ and the Obama Administration pulling her along, I thought there was no way she could or would be allowed to lose.

    I stayed up all night watching. I laughed out loud when she refused to come out after conceding. Ever since, it has been one surprise after another.

    You probably looked at things differently than I did, which I give you kudos for. You were not surprised, it seems. I was. Very surprised.
     
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    I'm a numbers guy, I let the numbers tell me what they can. I certainly wasn't one bit surprised Hillary won the popular vote by 2 points. That I totally expected. I wouldn't have been surprised if Trump had eked out a popular vote win, that was in the margin of error of the polls. What did surprise me was Trump winning Pennsylvania, Michigan and Wisconsin. Right there, perhaps the electoral college is where the pundits got it wrong. But if the pundits looked at the polls in those states, they could see the trend was going Trump's way. In fact Trafalgar Group on 7 Nov, the day be fore the election had Trump up by one in Pennsylvania and tied in Michigan. Still I didn't expect Trump to win those two states because of the voting history of them. For six straight presidential election they had gone Democratic. Very close race, for sure. Trump actually winning them, I thought no.

    Wisconsin, polling stopped the last week of October. No information or numbers to go by there. The polls were useless for Wisconsin.
     
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    Only because the public is so uninformed at how bad Obama really was. If the bias news would tell the truth it would be a no brainer.


    Sorry, Joe: Team Obama refused to arm Ukraine at all

    https://nypost.com › 2019/10/09 › sorry-joe-team-obama-refused-to-arm-u...
    Oct 9, 2019 - Team Obama feared that lethal aid would provoke Moscow. ... The aid in question is lethal military assistance that the Obama-Biden administration refused to give Ukraine. ... “President Barack Obama stuck to his refusal to provide weapons or ... And yet Team Obama did nothing, failing to carry out even .


    U.S. Cancels Part of Missile Defense That Russia Opposed ...

    https://www.nytimes.com › 2013/03/17 › world › europe › with-eye-on-nort...
    Mar 17, 2013 - At one such meeting, in South Korea last March, Mr. Obama was heard ... the antimissile program provoked sharp criticism in Poland, but this ...


    Obama refuses to provide the Kurds weapons to defend .
    ..
    https://reform4syria.org/obama-give-the-kurds-weapons-to-defend-themselves
    Oct 03, 2014 · As Barack Obama refused to arm the Free Syrian Army for over three years and refused to arm the Ukrainian Government to defend themselves from the Assad and the Putin terrors, now comes to our attention that Obama is refusing to provide the Kurds with weapons even as ISIL besieges the town of Kobani (Also called Ayn al-Arab).


    OBAMA REFUSES TO GIVE JORDAN DRONES TO BATTLE ISIS!

    https://americasfreedomfighters.com/obama-refuses-to-give-jordan-drones-to-battle-isis...
    Obama and the State Dept. have refused a request by Jordan to send unarmed Predator drones saying that 'Jordan is not a strong enough ally of the U.S.


    US Pilots Confirm: Obama Admin Blocks 75% of ISIS Strikes
    https://freebeacon.com/.../us-pilots-confirm-obama-admin-blocks-75-percent-of-isis-strikes
    Nov 20, 2015 · U.S. Pilots Confirm: Obama Admin Blocks 75 Percent of Islamic State Strikes ‘We can’t get clearance even when we have a clear target in front of us’ A …



    CIA director Brennan admits ISIS was “decimated” under Bush, but
    ...
    www.aei.org/.../brennan-admits-isis-was-decimated-under-bush-but-has-grown-under-...

    Nov 17, 2015 - by the CIA's own estimate, ISIS has grown on President Obama's watch from just 700 fighters to between 20000 and 31500 fighters. ... Admission: The Islamic State was “decimated” under George W. Bush and had just “700-or-so adherents left” following the surge in Iraq. Said Brennan: [ISIS] was, you know
     
  11. Marine1

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    Recovery Has Created Far More Low-Wage Jobs Than Better-Paid ...
    www.nytimes.com/2014/04/28/business/economy/...
    Apr 27, 2014 · Economy Recovery Has Created Far More Low-Wage Jobs Than Better-Paid Ones
    How good were the 10.9 million jobs under Obama?
    Money.CNN.com/2016/11/04/news/economy/jobs-under-obama/...
    Nov 03, 2016 · CNNMoney breaks down what kinds of jobs have been created and ... Almost all of the job gains under President Obama have been in so-called service jobs,

    The deep recession wiped out primarily high-wage and middle-wage jobs. Yet the strongest employment growth during the sluggish recovery has been in low-wage work, at places like strip malls and fast-food restaurants.

    In essence, the poor economy has replaced good jobs with bad ones. That is the conclusion of a new report from the National Employment Law Project, a research and advocacy group, analyzing employment trends four years into the recovery.

    “Fast food is driving the bulk of the job growth at the low end — the job gains there are absolutely phenomenal,” said Michael Evangelist, the report’s author. “If this is the reality — if these jobs are here to stay and are going to be making up a considerable part of the economy — the question is, how do we make them better?”

    The report shows that total employment has finally surpassed its pre-recession level. “The good news is we’re back to zero,” Mr. Evangelist said.

    But job losses and gains have been skewed. Higher-wage industries — like accounting and legal work — shed 3.6 million positions during the recession and have added only 2.6 million positions during the recovery. But lower-wage industries lost two million jobs, then added 3.8 million.
    HTTPS://www.nytimes.com/…/recovery-has-created-far-more-low…
    77 percent of 2013 jobs were part-time positions ...
    https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2013/aug/2/part-timer-nation...
    Aug 02, 2013 · Fully 77 percent of positions added to the market in 2013 have been part-time, in contrast to the positive economic news making the media rounds, according to payroll reports released in recent weeks.
    "There are now 1.2 million fewer jobs in mid- and higher-wage industries than there were before the Great Recession, according to data from the National Employment Law Project. In contrast, there are 2.3 million more jobs in lower-wage sectors than before the recession," according to CNBC. Nor is there the hoped-for renaissance in American manufacturing. We have some 300,000 fewer manufacturing jobs since President Barack Obama took office and 1.5 million jobs below the pre-recession level.
    https://www.usnews.com/news/the-report/articles/2015/08/23/the-part-time-economic-recovery
     
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    Marine1 Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Hillary or Obama can't be charged with anything. But they still are guilty as hell for their deaths. They helped take Kaddafi out and just walked away,letting Libya fall into the hands of terrorist and ISIS. The country was a mess and no help was sent. Why didn't they pull them out like many of the other countries did? Hillary said she didn't get all the calls for help. They went to the African office instead. But they knew what kind of condition Libya was in, why didn't they call and see if they were ok or needed more security? Why didn't they pull them out?
    Obama: Aftermath of Gaddafi overthrow, 'worst mistake as ...
    www.africanews.com/2016/04/11/obama-aftermath-of...
    US President Barack Obama has said the worst mistake of his presidency was a lack of planning for the aftermath of the 2011 toppling of Libyan strongman Muammar Gaddafi.
    Britain to pull embassy staff out of Libya
    News.yahoo.com/Britain-pull-embassy-staff-Libya...
    Aug 02, 2014 · Britain was one of the last western countries with an embassy open in Tripoli after two weeks of street fighting between Britain to pull embassy staff out of Libya Home
     
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    In addition she had so much FAITH in the willingness and ability of the Leftist-Allied Mainstream Media to carry her over the finish line that she hardly even bothered to campaign. Yeah one smaaaaaaaaaaaart lady.
     
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    Obama stabs Egypt's Mubarak and Israel in the back

    Obama's Middle East legacy: Tragic failure - Opinion ...

    https://www.jpost.com › Opinion

    Jan 15, 2017 - Instead of having Israel's back, he repeatedly stabbed Israel in the back, ... America's traditional allies in the Middle East – Israel, Egypt, Saudi Arabia, ... The forced resignation of Egyptian president Hosni Mubarak initially placed ... which doesn't sound like the sort of thing he would be saying if he is about ...
     
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    Look at your sources.
     
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    Are you saying Obama didn't give Ukraine blankets and refused to arm them against Russia? lol
     

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