Trump's 2020 map from hell

Not sure where you got your average, but Truman ranks as a top 10 and Obama consistently ranks in the top 12-15.

 

Yea...because Biden is going to lose to *****-grabbing Trump because of the female vote.

 

I think Biden's base cares a great deal about something like this, while most of Trump's do not (He does have problems in this area with the religious right). There appears to be a lot of video of his behavior. Not sure about Trump. I think he patted his own daughter on the hip in public which hits the creepy Joe Biden level but that may be the only "incident".

 

Trump wasn’t doing well in the polls when he won in ‘16, what makes you think he will do well in the polls when he wins again in ‘20?

 

A poll that DOES NOT EXIST?

https://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/latest_polls/

Instead here is a REAL POLL that does exist!

https://thehill.com/homenews/campai...t-trumps-reelection-43-percent-would-vote-for

 

This is horrible for the Dems.... "Generic" democrat has no flaws, no skeletons in the closet, no bogus claims of Native American ancestry or pronouncements of admiration for Castro/Chavez, no record of idiotic statements, DUI arrests, sex assault/harassment accusations, no unscrupulous/suspicious financial activities..

A generic democrat is Mr. or Mrs. Clean. Wait till the republican opposition research and smear machine go to work on him/her. A generic democrat has nowhere to go but down.... Trump after 3 years of lies, smear and slander about him has nowhere to go but up. If he poll is correct the libs are screwed.

 

Your odious BLOTUS's nefarious past was UNKNOWN to the electorate in 2016.

The more the electorate learns about him the LESS they like him.

The ACTUAL POLL shows that his MAXIMUM support is 36% with 11% undecided. Even if he manages to DUPE that entire 11% that still only puts him at 47% in 2020.

The math does lie but you BLOTUS can't stop lying!

The Dems only have to tell the TRUTH about your BLOTUS and he is toast.

 

LOL 98% chance, right?

Here is the truth that matters:

Trump: Booming economy, world peace, law and order, energy independence....

Libs: ANTIFA, violence, fake news, Jussie, 70% tax, open borders, socialism, globalism, hatred of the constitution (2nd amendment and electoral college), climate hoax, Russia conspiracy hoax, weaponization of law enforcement.

Like I said, liberal idiots have been smearing and slandering Trump for 3 years and have run out of bullets. He has nowhere to go but up, a generic dem will be destroyed by the idiocy of his totally insane party he represents and the republican Opposition research.

 

Typical BLOTUS supporter resorting to PUERILE ad hom VIOLATIONS of PF Rules again because it is IMPOSSIBLE to deny the TRUTH about him running a trainwreck of a regime.

 

Dude, like it or not, Trump has 2nd term written all over his MAGA hat. The disaster of the Russia collusion hoax and Obama government spying on the opposition campaign will bury any dem candidate the moment he or she stops being generic.

Lest we forget the power of incumbency and an extremely impressive record of Trump's achievements, booming economy, peace and prosperity.

 

Your BLOTUS is NOT responsible for any of the above but he will take the fall when they come to an end because of his malfeasance.

His track record is ABYSMAL and he is incapable of appealing to anyone outside of his base.

The Dems are not going be ambushed again and your BLOTUS can't count on the Russians supporting him any longer.

 

Average approval rates, not rankings by historians which is opinion. Try and keep up.

 

Try and keep up? You quoted my post that was explicitly about historian rankings and then switched to a new metric without saying so - one that barely existed during Truman's time frame - and you expected me to follow along with your failure of a logical argument?

Please.

But let's go ahead and take a gander, shall we? Here is Trump's gallup approval thus far:



What do you think the average approval rating is thus far? I've got 20:1 odds that it is at least 5% below Obama's 47.9 average. Just to make it abundantly clear how likely it is that Trump doesn't even come close, his HIGHEST approval rating - under Gallup - is the 45% that he hit a total of two times.

In other words, Trump's HIGHEST weekly approval rating under Gallup is still 3% below Obama's average approval rating.

What goalpost would you like to use next?

 

That was always my metric so historian opinions are irrelevant to the Presidents average polling.

 

And now that your metric demonstrates that Trump is going to be weeeeellllllll short of Obama's (or any other modern President for that matter), which goal post would you like to use next?

 

He is polling higher than Obama did at this point in time.

 

You sure?

 

Hmm...March 13, 2011 - I see Obama at 47%. March 10, 2019 - I see Trump at 39%. Just because I really, really want you to see how bad Trump is failing, that means he is 8 points lower than Obama was at this same point in his Presidency.

So what's your next goal post?

 

The explicit point of the OP is the fact that Trump basically got an inside straight in order to win the election. Between the three states that made the difference in the 2016 election, Trump won by ~75,000 votes. Jill Stein earned nearly 50k more votes in those three States.

And if Trump is polling upside down in many of those same States (and more), then this early map does not bode well for him.

But the 2018 midterms should make it abundantly clear that Democrats learned the lesson from 2016. A strong poll performance before the election only matters to the extent that it matches the vote total from the election.

 

Trump's approval rating is seriously under water. Even getting off the hook due to the Mueller Report hasn't helped him

Has a President with an approval lower than his disapproval for the entire first term ever won reelection?

 

Have Faith! @Borat

The Democratic Party is poised to do what it does best.

Snatch Defeat From The Jaws of Victory!​

Whatever the Trump ratings, it will always be
Compared To What.
Hillary was such a "What".
2020 is a set up for Another.


The Democratic Candidate must hold all the Hillary States,
and grab a few from the Great Red Middle.
Biden has no following in the West and could lose some Western Hillary States.


There remains two viable candidates.
Bernie Sanders
Andrew Yang
Neither has the compared to "What" baggage of others plus
they are attractive across age, race, gender, Left/Right political lines.
Breadth of appeal is favored by our, Thank You Lord, Electoral College.
The path to a Democratic Party victory is via Breadth of Appeal.
Concentrated appeal via Feminist Rallies, Black Rallies, LBGTQ Rallies
is adding to the "compared to What" baggage as they divide us, Not unite us.

Sanders / Yang
2020
Or Lose!​

 

Moi U have always perplexed me with your seeming dichotomies... 'Repubs' unfortunately are the only ones proverbially 'snatching victory from the jaws of defeat' (2016 doesn't qualify). I wish y'all libs could claim that mantra, but until U do - it sadly remains ours, lol...

Re. Sanders & Yang, I just don't see it! I think that the reason Trump 16 was such a shock to the metro (dark deep blue) regions on our coastal regions was because they just didn't have an inkling of what 'flyover country' was thinking - that, or they relegated anything out of their 'lib-centric ilk's' ideology as "fringe"... Have the 'elitists' woken up yet - debatable as I see it...

 

I was speaking to the Democratic Party ability to
Snatch Defeat From The Jaws of Victory.
1988. A good example. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1988_United_States_presidential_election



Sanders / Yang is the best bet for the Democratic Party in 2020.


Regardless of how bad Trump may appear,
Have Faith the Democratic Party can find someone more objectionable.
Sanders / Yang are the least objectionable among the Dems and attract Right Wing sorts too.

 

You mean you have no answer and are just trying to bluster?

 

After 2016 can anyone truly believe the polls?