Trump's communications with a foreign leader sparked whistleblower complaint

That wasn't just us. You guys started the investigation and continued it. We were out of power and along for the ride.

 

Greenland good place to keep him on ice.

 

Not for much longer, I fear...

 

Being American of Ukrainian decent I keep tabs on the goings on by the boys in Kyiv and yes that "AG" was very corrupt and had pro Russian connections and not only with Ukrainian oligarchs but also Russian oligarchs.

 

No worries Trump declared global warming Fake News we are safe. If I am wrong Trump will build a sea wall all around the US so the rising seas will never touch. We will win so much that we will be asking Our Dear Leader to stop winning so much.

 

Exactly and the back room story was that the US was worried about the corruption that was in Ukraine as the reason for slow walking.

The Obama guy did not want to sell Ukraine lethal arms because he did not want to expand the war. Thatbwas just BS.

 

That's what I figured. This Biden story has been around awhile. If there was anything there, it would have popped up by now.

 

She gleefully signed off on the deal after Putin and his pals “donated” to their “foundation”

 

It did pop up...we know Biden withheld aid until the investigation of his son was stopped.

 

"Mr. Trump in the call didn’t mention a provision of U.S. aid to Ukraine, said this person, who didn’t believe Mr. Trump offered the Ukrainian president any quid pro quo for his cooperation on any investigation"
https://www.wsj.com/articles/trump-defends-conversation-with-ukraine-leader-11568993176

 

Hunter Biden has close ties to Russians and Ukrainian oligarchs and was getting six figures a month into a secret account, he was about to go sow., until his dear dad withheld aid and the investigation was ended.

Trump is right to normalize relations with Ukraine, and aid then in fighting corruption and ending the policies of being more flexible with Russia

 

I heard the rumor that Biden "withheld" aid but the time lines of when Biden was supposedly withold aid did not match up. Biden has been out of office for nearly three years now and when a fellow Ukrainian American Trump fan made thatvallegation he had Biden doing that in 2017.

 

Rumor? Biden bragged about it recently! Said he told them they weren’t getting a billion dollars

 

You know just as in Truml's case

I followed the case but there was no direct line to her proven onlyballegations. There needed to be a whistleblower who knew about it. Hillary did not directly handle that deal. Yes she was SOS but you know that the top guy relies on underlings. If there was proof she needed to be loved up but there never was proof developed.

 

The money was exchanged, the deal was green lighted after that by her

 

I think you need to measure the phrase "in the call" with other reporting that says there was multiple events...

SNIP
The complaint was based on a series of events, one of which was a July 25 call between Trump and Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelenskiy
ENDSNIP

https://time.com/5682383/trump-whistleblower-complaint/

Remember, Trump is not the only person from this administration to have had contact with Zelensky or his aides over this time frame...

Wouldn't be the first time somebody mentioned the carrot, then came in with the stick later...

 

What IG?

 

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There was only one Democrat that mattered in 2016. The polls showed Trump was behind in 2016 and he lost the popular vote, 65,853,514 to 62,984,828.

 

Your evidence Biden was helping his son is what?

That's all ya got?

You have film if Biden bragging he was helping his son? Where?

 

Biden's sone Hunter was not under investigation by the Ukrainian prosecutor. Trump fans falsely claimed that Biden told the Ukrainians to drop the investigation or that they would not get foreign aid. Since there was no investigation there was nothing to drop.

How do we know that there was no investigation? Giuliani went tonUkraine and asked them to investigate Hunter Biden. Why would he ask them investigate if there was an investigation.

 

More than likely...But don't let the wingers deflect you from the real story here... The story is

1. The complaint that is unlawfully being held back from Congress
2. Trump asking Ukraine for assistance in investigating a political rival (or son thereof). Any quid pro quo just makes it worse but is NOT required to be a clearly impeachable act, depending on what the whistleblower has.
3. Trump saying ANYTHING on this topic is to be fully ignored.... That's actually a good rule of thumb for any topic...

 

I don't usually read Breitbart but since you wanted to link this article from Breitbart:

"The Associated Press has not confirmed the report.

Schiff said he, too, could not confirm whether the Post report was accurate because the administration was claiming executive privilege in withholding the complaint."

Still a non starter.

From CNN:
"The whistleblower didn't have direct knowledge of the communications, an official briefed on the matter told CNN. Instead, the whistleblower's concerns came in part from learning information that was not obtained during the course of their work, and those details have played a role in the administration's determination that the complaint didn't fit the reporting requirements under the intelligence whistleblower law, the official said."
https://www.cnn.com/2019/09/20/politics/donald-trump-whistleblower/

If one is still determined to believe anon sources what we have is third person information from a guy that knows a guy told someone that a person might have said something. It just shows the desperation of some on the left to believe crap without any foundation.

 

I can make up my own laws as well... it's easy to do if you aren't challenged..

 

I understand totally. I understand there isn't anyone with any knowledge that is from a corroborated or verifiable source that anything happened and the left is crapping themselves about a non event prematurely as usual.

Do you not realize who generated the dossier and peepee tapes that the DOJ spent two years investigating? The origination of it started in Russia and was given to the FBI by a Brit who was paid by the Clinton campaign. How concerned are you about that compared to yet another other piece of generated and overly hyped, non verifiable piece of melodrama?