Trump's Scheme to Take Americans' Private Property

Just tell Trump his wall has been built, it's big, it's beautiful, and Mexico paid for it!

Anyone who can hallucinate about thousands of people cheering terrorism in New Jersey, millions of invisible entities all voting against him, or billions celebrating his electoral college victory on the Washington Mall should be able to easily conjure up such a chimerical delusion.

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The reality is that Trump's fantasy erection that he repeatedly promised Mexico would pay for, and that Republicans in control of Congress for two years would not fund with $5.7 billion of taxpayer money for something that most Americans do not want, is not going to be built.

The real barrier that effectively blocks Trump's phony one is the US Constitution, strengthened by the resolve of Americans, Texans conspicuously among them, to speak truth to power - a wall that Trump can't get over, under, around, or through.

 

TrumpBots are unable to rationalize or defend their enthusiastic embrace of their divinity's scheme to savage the private property right of Americans along the Southern border to build his wall that he had repeatedly promised Mexico would pay for and that most Americans do not want.

Such Big Government intrusion via eminent domain is especially repugnant to conservative principles, but Trumpery is not principled.

 

Sad, having to bump one's own lopsided thread to get attention.

Translation of OP for any adult readers: "A Southern Border Wall could involve eminent domain issues."

Rest is just partisan babble from partisan dreck sources.

 

I understand the extreme reluctance of those enamored of Trump's "big, beautiful wall" to explain their embrace of the Big Government tactic of confiscating the private property of Americans, an infringement that is antithetical to conservative political philosophy. Yet, it is an issue that must be confronted.

Approximately 4,900 parcels that could be seized or affected if a wall were built within 500 feet of the border, and Texas is steeped in the tradition of private-property rights.
Texas, unlike many large western states, contains almost no federally owned property.

My bumping this thread is presenting them with the opportunity to explain why they champion the mass seizure of private property by the State, and how the prolonged litigation inevitably resulting impacts the imposition of their "big, beautiful wall" that most Americans oppose.

I hope they will rise to the occasion regarding the contradictions, inconsistencies, and the legal quagmire they seek to contrive.

If they can't, they can't, but I thought it only right to give them a second chance.

 

About every national and state park, highway and interstate highway, was built using eminent domain for the public good. I am sure that many, if not most of the people forcibly moved objected. I live close to a national park and they moved people out of their homes which had been theirs for generations. For all practical purposes most of that land is unused.

In this case the land will be put to good use. It is a poor excuse not to build the wall. The wall is the right or wrong thing to do based on its own merits, not phony arguments like this.

 

lol. A hillarybot calling other people "trump bots" is nothing short of hilarious.

 

So Ike should have not expanded the interstate highway system in national interests because the gov't had to use this same thing? That does not concern me as much as private land being taken, at a fair market value, for some big corporation to get a nice, attractive lot for a their new building and business.

 

Most all schemes to confiscate people's private property away come from leftists like THESE:

 

No idea how you got the above from my short, easy to read, crystal clear post.

Eminent Domain is abused all over the country, 99% in urban or suburban environments. Not so much in raw land, and my opinion is that the alleged "resistance" that OP, as usual, is utterly incapable of summarizing in clear adult language, is not sincere or widespread.

 

I understood you to say exactly what I responded to. Trump's scheme to take private property from americans...which has a technical name. In national interests. Perhaps you cannot understand your own post?

 

The law of eminent domain has existed since before our nation was formed. The federal government, and in fact, state and local governments have always had the authority to take private land for public use after just compensation.
It is a proven fact that walls work. While they may not stop all illegal ingress they stop much of it and slow all of it. If walls serve no purpose why does Nancy Pelosi have one surrounding her house?
The wall will not be a sea to sea structure but a series of barriers constructed where most needed. Walls will force those attempting to enter our country to do so at legal points of entry.
How can Democrats be against people entering the country legally?

 

This is false. National parks were primary built on land already owned by the Federal government. Interstate highways were largely built along extant roads.

 

Anyone who lives in Missouri should be well versed in the concept of eminent domain. Entire towns were taken by the government when the Lake of the Ozarks was formed.

 

And that is false. I live close to a national park. You can still see what is remaining of old homes which were there and the locals still talk about how their family homes were taken. Every time they build a new road, they tend to straighten it and take more land. That is especially true for interstates. I drive by an area several times a week where homes are being torn down for expansion of a highway from two lanes to four lanes.

 

Almost any man made lake of any size has many homes and towns which were taken.

 

You misunderstood then.

 

Well you must have written in in greek, ancient greek at that, which I cannot comprehend. haha

 

Democrats take people's homes and give them to developers because they make more taxes off the developments.

 

Your odd obsession with Clinton aside, you appear to be impotent in offering a defense of your messiah seizing the private property of Americans all along the southern border.

 

The realistic prospect for seizing the private property of so many Americans for a wall that most Americans do not want is not a wall, but years of litigation by private property owners fighting Big Government seizure of their property.

Most Americans oppose Trump's wall; most conservatives oppose eminent domain.

 

Most Americans do not want Trump's wall that he repeatedly promised Mexico would pay for.

Most private property owners targeted by Trump will exercise their constitutional rights and contest the Big Government seizure of their private property in the courts for years.

 

The most fanatical of Trump worshipers have yet to explain how the constitutional rights of private property owners do not prevent his fantasy wall from being built for years by the litigation that would be these targeted Americans' defense against Trump's Big Government confiscations

 

They should ask them again after presenting them with this..........

That's $7,248,800 just for a bed per day. That's not counting health care or legal fees. $7,248,800 X 365 = $2,645,812,000 per year.

 

That "so many Americans" is small compared to what has done previously. Whether or not "most Americans" want it is not relevant. As far as years of litigation. It will be what it is. Also not relevant.

 

That is hardly a credible rationalization for tyranny. Trump's targeted victims have popular support, and eminent domain is still anathema to conservative principles.

Tyrants have often claimed that what the People want is not relevant, but the US has championed a more democratic approach to self-governance.

Years of litigation by Americans fighting to keep their private property out of the clutched of Big Government is a very relevant barrier to the actual construction of Trump's "big, beautiful wall" that Trump repeatedly promised Mexico would pay for and that most Americans do not want - unless the constitutional rights of those Americans are denied.

Republicans, in control of both houses of Congress for two years, refused to give Trump $5.7 billion of US taxpayer money for his boondoggle. Under a Democratically-controlled House, that policy continues.