Trump's Scheme to Take Americans' Private Property

The vast majority of illegal immigrants in the US enter legally and overstay visas. An effective wall would, inevitably, cause even more to choose that preferred option, but, even if Congress gave Trump $5.7 billion for his big, beautiful wall that he repeatedly promised Mexico would pay for and that most Americans do not want, it would be years before it could be realized as Americans would fight Big Government's seizing their private property in the courts.

Republicans, in control of both houses of Congress for two years, did not give Trump $5.7 of US taxpayer money for his big, beautiful wall that he repeatedly promised Mexico would pay for and that most Americans do not want. Under Democratic House control, that policy persists.

 

Tyranny? We have roads crossing our country and almost all were once private property. Lakes, government buildings, national parks with land all acquired the same way.

I know you don't want to believe this, but we do not have a tyrant. We have an elected president and elected congress who in the past have done a lot of things that the majority of the people do not agree with.

And democrats in the past have wanted a wall. Just plain hypocrisy Regardless of what the democrats say, walls do work and have worked for thousands of years and will continue to work. .

 

Wonder how the democrats did it for the 700 miles they voted for? Bet you didn't whine about it then.

 

Dubya never made the fake claim that Mexico would pay for his fence.

The relatively modest fence about which Trump has scoffed and lied, is no more a justification for Trump's "big beautiful wall" than an FDA food inspector demanding he be issued a Hummer in 2019 because the government had bought another inspector a Fiat 500 in 2006.

The Democratically-controlled House is continuing precisely what Republicans, in control of both houses of Congress for two years, refused to do: give Trump $5.7 billion for his big, beautiful wall that he repeatedly promised Mexico would pay for and that most Americans do not want.

 

Of course the first timers come in on a VISA then over stay. When we deport a visa overstay or a criminal alien, the only way back in is across the open border. The guy in San Francisco who killed Kate Steinle was deported and came back 5 times, the guy in Nevada or Utah who killed Sheriff's Deputies was deported 8 times and came back. The wall cuts off the route for deportees to return. Then there's the cost of doing nothing.........

If they are coming here just for work, they will abide by most of our laws and never come in contact with the law. That means the good hard working people stay and the illegal criminal element gets tossed out and will play hades to get back in. I guess this just makes too much sense to the left.

 

newsflash... those lawsuits have been ongoing for decades... hence the 'missing' sections. what you, along with the rest of us, should be asking is " what happened to the billions of dollars previously allocated for the wall by other presidents ? it wasnt used on construction because of those lawsuits, so where is it?

 

Spending $5.7 billion of taxpayer money on a wall that Trump had repeatedly promised Mexico would pay for does not make much sense to most Americans, it is true, nor to the Republican-controlled Congress that refused to give him the money for two years.

Pretending that Trump's federal bureaucrats seizing the private property of so so many Texans for his fantasy could avoid years of litigation as they asserted their Constitutional rights, and that any physical barrier, however big and beautiful, would be 100% effective, are even greater fantasies.

 

Why couldn't Trump's invisible wall keep out the millions of invisible entities whom he claims all voted against him?

Maybe he needs another big, beautiful invisible wall all along the border with Canada.

 

Must I remind you of Obama's Lie of the Year that told us we would save $2500 a year on our health insurance with the ACA? Or if you like you doctor you can keep your doctor, if you like your plan you can keep your plan, all very expensive lies. Obama Care cost the taxpayer triple digit billions. Or no one would see one dime in new taxes HA! So please spare us the pompous arrogance to think Mexico would pay in advance of the wall it's ludicrous no one does that.

Of course the first timers come in on a VISA then over stay. When we deport a visa overstay or a criminal alien, the only way back in is across the open border. The guy in San Francisco who killed Kate Steinle was deported and came back 5 times, the guy in Nevada or Utah who killed Sheriff's Deputies was deported 8 times and came back. The wall cuts off the route for deportees to return. Then there's the cost of doing nothing.........

That's $7,248,800 just for a bed per day. That's not counting health care or legal fees. $7,248,800 X 365 = $2,645,812,000 per year. They are costing us half of what Trump's asking for a wall PER YEAR not including health care and legal fees.

 

And the new communists.
https://nypost.com/2019/01/10/de-blasio-theres-plenty-of-money-in-nyc-its-just-in-the-wrong-hands/

 

Once again Trump never said Mexico would pre-pay for it. Glad I could clear that up for ya.

 

Not unless you entertain the antic notion that historical deceptions, in some inexplicable manner, justify Trump's copious lies.

If you are in need of such diversions, here you go:

Obama was not auditioning as a Trump®U recruiter at the time, and such giddy prognostications were not valid.

Obama's claim was every bit as ingenuous as Trump's repeated campaign promise to "repeal and replace Obamacare" or to release his tax returns.

Obama was then; Trump is now.


... Do a few of America's 11 million undocumented residents commit the same sort of horrific crimes that documented ones do? Irrefutably.

 

Despite his fake repeated claim and desperate attempts to weasel out of it, there is no reason for rational folks to expect that Mexico will ever pay for Trump's craved-for erection that most Americans do not want, nor to swallow his phony revisionism. It's as ironclad as his vow to release his tax returns.

Trump Revises History on Mexico’s Wall Payment
https://www.factcheck.org/2019/01/trump-revises-history-on-mexicos-wall-payment/

...economists told us that while the new trade agreement is arguably
a slightly more advantageous deal for the U.S. than NAFTA,
it won’t generate enough additional federal revenues to pay for the border wall,
and shouldn’t be construed as Mexican payments, anyway.

​

 

I don't think most people think that Mexico will pay for the wall. Your preoccupation with this issue is tiring and has nothing to do with whether the wall is the right or wrong thing to do.

 

So you are saying we SHOULDNT throw away every value we have always held dear, to dictate all our right wing ideas on the majority?

 

I became a libertarian, due to eminent domain. It was ANCHOR MUFFLER. They were to be bulldozed, as the city fathers thought they could better utilize that property. To bring in revenue to the city. Anaheim it was.

And I still believe it must be a highhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh threshold, to relieve folks of their own volition. Far higher than Trumps magical compensation erection.

What is gonna be nice is, when Dems do things in the future, they will NOT be able to chide us in their traditional ways, as they will be YUGE hypocrites.

 

You are correct that, despite Trump's repeated fake claim that Mexico would pay for his wall, most Americans being opposed to it is far more relevant.

 

Just wondering why the lefties were never on the warpath against walls when democrats voted for 700 miles of them. Could it be hypocrisy?

 

...or could it be that there's a difference between 700 or so miles of border infrastructure of a known design in high priority areas at a time when illegal immigration was high and rising and signing over billions for who-knows-what, who-knows-where at a time when illegal immigration is low and falling.

 

You mean like the 230 miles requested now by the Border Patrol and Homeland Security to replace failing walls and some new walls in areas known for it's porosity?

 

Liberals need to take their minds off trump’s penis

And I dont think you will find many landowners along the border who welcome illegal aliens hiking across their land every night

 

Is that what the $5.7bn President Trump is demanding is for ?

My understanding was that funding had already been signed off for repairs........

 

Americans being opposed to the wall has more to do with dislike for Trump than the wall itself. The wall is a good idea and who pays for it is small potatoes. It is like eating a good meal at an expensive restaurant and then getting concerned about the cost. When you get the credit card bill, you realize that meal really didn't amount to much when you look at the total credit card bill.

 

It does not matter if fewer illegal aliens make the decision to break our laws and invade our country now than at some previous time

One illegal alien is too many

And certainly a million is too much

Because under the open border crowd sleight of hand trick 10 million much chose to come in the future

And there would be no way to stop them without trumps wall

 

There is previous funding that is being used to replace failing border fencing and I believe 20 miles of new wall in Arizona I think which are being built now.

The 5.7 billion is not for a whole border wall but for what has been requested for strategic purposes and it is for the type the Border Patrols says they need.