Trump's statements on American soldiers

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  1. edna kawabata

    edna kawabata Well-Known Member

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    People that support Trump, if it were confirmed that he said that soldiers that died for our country were "suckers" and "losers" would you still vote for him?
    BTW, Fox News national security correspondent, Jennifer Griffin, confirmed the statements and now Trump wants her fired.
     
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    wgabrie Well-Known Member Donor

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    When I first heard about that I was wondering if Trump was intentionally trying to lose.

    But, hey, that was supposed to be a private opinion.
     
  3. edna kawabata

    edna kawabata Well-Known Member

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    Wah? You didn't vote.
     
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    I have never seen so many serving supporting and retired military so ANGRY. These people have good memories they remember him mocking the Khan family, they remember him denigrating John McCain they remember the multiple times he has bad mouthed people like General Kelly. So they are believing this and they are furious!
     
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    She use too, but, doesn't work for Fox News. Even John Bolton, who wrote a scathing book, said "it wasn't true". Interesting how these stories come out a couple months before the election. Laurene Powell Jobs and Jeffery Goldberg have deep ties and pockets to Hillary Clinton and Obama. This is just more "Deep State" crap. The War Hawks are expanding their wings, one more more , as Trump has decimated their source for jobs and kickbacks when they retire from the military. Funny how the anti-defense Democrats are now on this bandwagon. Trump has done more for vets, wounded warriors, the military and defense in this country in many a year.
     
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    But Bolton, who published a book earlier this year that was heavily critical of his former boss, said the alleged remarks sounded accurate.

    “I have not heard anybody say, ‘Oh, that doesn’t sound like the Donald Trump I know,’” Bolton said in the interview. Bolton said the remarks may have stemmed from Trump’s skepticism of U.S. wars in Iraq and Afghanistan.

    “He was prone to say from time to time: ‘What did they get out of it? What was the worth of the war in Iraq and the war in Afghanistan?’” Bolton said. “That is a kind of insensitivity that Trump does have, there’s no doubt about it.”

    Bolton was on the 2018 trip to Paris with Trump but said he didn’t hear the president disparage the dead Marines himself.

    “I didn’t hear him say those things,” he said, adding later he probably would have included the remarks in his book if he had. “Now, did he say those things to other people later in the day? It’s certainly possible.”

    Asked whether Trump has high regard for the military, Bolton said, “I don’t think he really holds anybody in high regard except his family.”

    Bolton said the Atlantic’s sources should publicly identify themselves and recount Trump’s remarks on the record, as he did in his book. He said Trump’s support among military service members is lower than it should be for a Republican, a problem for his re-election effort.

    “The military typically could be expected to support the Republican candidate very heavily, but I think there are many, many in the military who are not going to do that,” he said.
    https://www.bloomberg.com/news/arti...mp-remarks-on-military-despicable-if-accurate
     
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    I became disillusioned with Democrats on Defense while waiting off the coast of Cuba to attack Castro, Kennedy called off the mission. During the Viet Nam War I spent the majority of my time overseas in the Tonkin Gulf and did we fight a war to win? No we fought a war of appeasement. Many good men died because the Pol's in Washington restrained the military. We involved ourselves in the Middle East for years and for what reason? We attack Iraq and let Saudi Arabia off the hook? Obama/Biden send planeloads of money to Iran, for what person? So they can support terror groups that blow up our ships and kill our soldiers? We are playing checkers in the Middle East for decades and now that we have someone that is willing to get us out of there and bring our troops home has the war-hawks in a tizzy. We have been suckers as the only people who have profited are the perpetrators. "Come attack us so you can rebuild our economy and re-arm us." No? We buy from the Russians or Chinese then. Ahh! I knew you would see it our way. Here's our list.
     
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    edna kawabata Well-Known Member

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    Still works there.
    https://www.foxnews.com/person/g/jennifer-griffin
     
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    Actually it does not matter what you believe - enough people DO believe and they are angry
     
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    If it was ever going to be confirmed it would be confirmed right away, and the accuse would be a hero in the left wing media. It's a vicious lie
     
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    Okay...I fail to see what that has to do with my response negating your assertion that Bolton said the comments weren't true...
     
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    Trump never said any of that and so you are asking the equivalent of "Leftists, if it were confirmed that Biden did sell this nation out to China," would you still vote for him? How about, "Leftists if it were confirmed that Barack Obama really was a nation hater and anti-White racist . . . would you vote for him--again?"
     
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    I believe Bolton and four others that were there did confirm the story says a lot. Another BS story funded by BS money and perpetuated by a BS Media and swallowed and regurgitated by a BS minion of braindead losers.
     
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    So first, you asserted that he said it wasn't true. Now that I've provided proof that refutes that, you just call BS.
     
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    Draft dodger Trump disparages military service ... and water is wet.
    Trump supporters already knew Trump wasn't big on military service, they don't care.
     
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    edna kawabata Well-Known Member

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    An easy one...no.
     
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    My belief is that if Trump publicly started making these statements he would lose some votes but less than many would imagine. As long as it is reported source whether they are anonymous or not the majority will either give he the benefit of the doubt that the sources do not exist and it is fake news, or if the sources are named they are never Trumpers or have a gripe because they were fired or never promoted. There is also probably a significant portion of supporters that believe the reporting but do not care.
     
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    Wrong. Jennifer Griffiin did not confirm that Trump made the statement. Jennifer Griffin only confirmed that unnamed anonymous sources are claiming Trump made the statement.

    Being as the media has spent the past 4 years spreading #FakeNews lies there is every reason to believe that this is just another smear attack in coordination and collusion with Biden and the DNC and the media. The Biden campaign already had prepared smear ads before the story was released. Another sign the media and democrats think you are stupid.

    Unless you see a video tape of Trump actually saying this, ASSUME IT IS FALSE.

    The administration has already provided a dozen testimonials of persons who were on the trip who say the unnamed sources are lying.
     
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    In fairness: Trump 5 deferrals Biden 5 deferrals. I was at a Terry Fator show in Vegas and he asked the Veterans to please stand. I stood and when I looked around there were but maybe a couple dozen out a full audience. I was really surprised. So I don't think this is going to be as big an issue as some think.
     
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    Did he mock the Khan family? No I think he was attacked by the Khan family and President Trump as is his custom responded in kind. The jerk Mr. Khan acted inappropriately, as if his son's death were Trump's fault. Because why? He didn't agree with President Trump trying to keep the same killer Muslim terrorists who killed his son from entering the country to murder innocent Americans? Too f'ing bad. If Mr. khan doesn't like it he can go back to his own country.

    This is what Trump said that was supposedly so offensive:

    Why is that so offensive. He made an observation that was 100% accurate. Yet the media has for years made that truthful observation into a some huge insult to a gold star family. Give me a break! Who cares! The Khans need to go back to Pakistan and see what happens to them. Their son was killed by Muslim terrorists. They should be glad President Trump wants to keep Muslim terrorists out of the country. But they don't. They coddle Muslim fanatic terrorists like the democrats do.
     
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    edna kawabata Well-Known Member

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    So, even if there were multiple people confirming he said these things you still would not believe without video confirmation?
     
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    Why should I believe anyone? The media and democrats ARE STILL PROMOTING THE LIE that Trump called NAZIS fine people. Biden made it the basis of his campaign and NO ONE IN THE MEDIA has called him out on it.
     
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    edna kawabata Well-Known Member

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    You believe Trump.....who made 20,000 false or misleading statements while in office as of July. Hmm.
     
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