From the perspective of someone who believes that the Architects and Engineers for 9/11 Truth version of things reflects reality and the government version of things is a lie, it's not sickening at all. It's a great idea and I applaud it. About the only place to read the real research on 9/11 is the internet and there are a lot of people who don't look at it. They have to be reached somehow. They're doing the right thing. http://www.politicalforum.com/showthread.php?t=358288&p=1063929096#post1063929096 http://www.politicalforum.com/showthread.php?t=358288&p=1063930861#post1063930861
Yup. They are. Richard Gage is sucking up money from truthers to pay for his vaca... errrr... truth crusades. Keep up the good work.
Originally Posted by l4zarus View Post If I was in your shoes I'd be less concerned with someone dismissing you crazy theory and more concerned your crazy theory was invented by racists in a private conference long before the "Truth Movement" as we know it existed. Given most of even the most annoying "truthers" are not racists, some sort of bait and switch happened. We may never know the details. But now you're informed, you can take a step back and question whether you want to endorse theories of any kind invented by the likes of Christopher Bollyn. I don't believe I said they did. Non Sequitur. Another Non Sequitur. It's doubtful an "opinion" of Bollyn. There is almost zero chance Bollyn believes "space rays" destroyed anything. But he, and the racist people at the conference in 2002 were very invested is seeing how many people they could bilk with this garbage to. For some reason they helped found a "truth" movement around the 9/11 attacks. I doubt it was for hugs and puppies and to "stop wars". Implicitly I'm not. I'm assuming you don't align yourself politically or ideologically with militant racists and neo Nazis. Therefore you should be doubly alarmed the memes and theories you're supporting probably were invented by cynical Neo Nazi political opportunists. (If I thought you had no problem with this I wouldn't bother) If I found out something I was supporting and endorsing had actually been invented by people I would never otherwise associate with, I would immediately question the agenda of the movement I was part of and the honesty of the people who had convinced me to join it. Do you understand the principle of setting up your own competition? Coke and Pepsi? It actually reinforces both brands and the premise behind them. In your case, your failure to question the history of the people inventing/pushing these theories means you will be exploited by them until you "wake up".
Stop right there. This so called "reality" is based on the Bentham paper by Steven Jones, published by a subsidy publishing house. A paper whose findings are wrong to say the least. This same "scientist" believes in Earth Quake machines, Over Unity machines and who knows what other proven scientific hoaxes: http://msgboard.snopes.com/cgi-bin/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=get_topic;f=104;t=000176;p=0 http://message.snopes.com/showpost.php?p=541176&postcount=29 http://message.snopes.com/showpost.php?p=541213&postcount=31 Oh wait, That Snopes. My bad. /sarc.
Not just physics. Just consider the steel debris evidence that was destroyed without examination. That alone makes the whole investigation questionable.
What 'steel debris evidence' was that? Remembering,of course, that every inch of that pile had to be inspected for human remains...
The one discussed here: http://911research.wtc7.net/wtc/groundzero/cleanup.html and in the FEMA report (linked at the end).
I repeat:EVERY INCH of that pile was examined for human remains The fact that the steel was eventually recycled is a common practice
Actually, there is a certain level of oddity in the matter of fact that the uncertain, the fantastic, attracts more attention than the certain [at Abu Graib something happened for real, but it seems that public opinion is not that interested to understand what happened and how].
That is the key, the rubble pile was examined for human remains, NOT evidence of explosive demolition.
I'd like to see something credible that says that Steven Jones believes in earthquake machines. A classic tactic to fool viewers is to associate truthers with wacky theories. Real truthers don't believe in wacky theories. The proof that 9/11 was an inside job is so clear that, once people have seen it, there's really nothing you can do to make them think it wasn't. (post #3 of this thread) http://www.politicalforum.com/showthread.php?t=348380&p=1063729867#post1063729867
I'm jealous of a man who spreads lies and uses those lies to suck money out of people? Maybe you might be jealous of him, but not me. I think his tactics and what he's doing is despicable.
there WAS no 'explosive demolition' to look for,and you can't prove there would have been. MAJOR fail
I am not referring to human remains. And steel recycling is a common practice only when investigators are certain that there is nothing to gain from the physical evidence. But as the link and references show, most of the steel debris was not examined.
I think the official story is despicable and I applaud his effort in exposing the truth, regardless of any monetary benefits (imagined or otherwise). If corporations could make truth profitable, we'd see loads of it.
I don't care what you're referring to...Human remains were all over that pile...and ALL the steel was examined - - - Updated - - - No,we wouldn't.....And the truth has been told,and you're nowhere near it
The result of 9/11 attack can be seen here. It's odd that controlled demolitions was so far from being vertical that they projected debris all around, damaging so many other buildings [and quite random ...]. About WTC7, just the debris of the towers damaged the structure of that building so much that its fall was obvious [firefighters were expecting that building to fall almost an hour before it happened.
"human remains all over the pile" and "ALL of the steel was examined" how do you support that claim? or indeed two separate claims?
Use your brain for something besides your conspiracies,the whole complex was crime scene,the FDNY and the port authority wouldn't have stood by and let them destroy evidence without raising a stink
The Federal government alone steals 20% of everything the country produces, that rises to 40% if you include state and local. They seem to be doing just fine to me without martial law.
