Tucker Carlson starts to divulge the Capitol video tapes

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  1. Overitall

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    Was he yelling at anyone in particular or just barking at the moon? I see he pled guilty, but that wasn't enough for the prosecution; they wanted a harsh sentence to send a message. Mess with a Democrat's party and we'll **** you up for life. His life is basically screwed.
     
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    You make an interesting point about capitol cops on Jan.6. The capitol cops resisted protestors until they realized they couldn't stop them then the capitol police just let capitol protestors mill about.
     
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    They ran a disinformation campaign on them, to trick them into thinking that Russians hacked the computer and planted all the incriminating information, and they in turn, ran the same information on the American People, for the purpose of rigging the election and installing Joe Biden. And you are ok with all this, which, pretty much tells us everything we need to know about you.

    The J6 Committee was just another of many lying disinformation attacks on the American People.

    Tucker Carlson tells Glenn Beck how he discovered J6 committee members were being dishonest.

    .@TuckerCarlson explains the evidence he uncovered that led him to call the January 6 Committee members "LIARS": "This video, which overturns the story they were telling, they saw, but HID...That just blew my mind."

    Remember, Liz Cheney and the other turncoat joined in with the Democrats on this massive disinformation attack on the American People.

     
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    Without justification, they had him in solitary confinement, he broke, he pled, and hopefully he'll be released soon. A future GOP President will likely pardon him and expunge his record and make sure he is still entitled to the benefits normally provided to a Navy Veteran.
     
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    When you post things such as the above example, just for your understanding, it calls into question your other posts, which might otherwise seem reasonable. *This had been your response, to my listing things done by the J6 rioters, which have not only been uncontested to have occurred, but most of which-- the beating with a fire extinguisher, the use of bear spray, and the massed pushing, to crush with the weight of their force, police trying to obstruct their path-- I have already seen on video. So, logically, seeing a policeman walking through a lobby, or the like-- or anything else, for that matter-- on one of the videos that "were kept secret," is not going to change any of the things, of which I already know. This makes your words read like only so much drivel.

    Perhaps, indirectly, this explains your otherwise odd remark, that I show how wrong I can be, by judging a book by its cover, "once again." This idea is not ringing any bells for me, from one of your earlier posts but, when I get swamped with a lot of replies and am short on time, I will skip over some, that past experience gives me cause to think might be cryptic, require decoding, or simply be off the wall. While I always intend to go back to such posts, I do not always, in practice, remember to do this. So I am now wondering if I had ever read your last post, & if maybe that is to what your "once again," is referring.

    The other possibility is that, perhaps further back, I had read such an argument from you, but it had not been strong or valid enough, to have left me with an impression of it. Once more, I am filling you in on the effect of your comments-- of which you could not otherwise be aware, so would need only assume their result.
     
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    I will give you, that the association made, was only through the coincidence of events, and cannot be verified to have been a cause and effect. And while you can criticize this of the J6 Committee members, and perhaps some other details, about the depictions in the press, I don't know how that gets any reasonable person to the point of thinking, "Oh, so that means it really wasn't an attack on the Capitol, or a riot, or even a violent protest; they had basically just been sightseers." Do you see that conclusion, at the end of this path?
     
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    Sandy Shanks said:
    "As in 2016, early polls of next year’s contest show the Republican electorate is again sharply dividing about former President Donald Trump along lines of education. In both state and national surveys measuring support for the next Republican nomination, Trump is consistently running much better among GOP voters without a college education than among those with a four-year or graduate college degree," CNN
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    CBS described Carlson's presentation. "Carlson claimed surveillance video from the scene showed "mostly peaceful chaos" inside the Capitol. While a "small percentage" of the rioters were "hooligans" who committed vandalism, he said, most were "orderly and meek," and he equated them with "sightseers."

    The program was so egregious that even prominent Republicans spoke out in disgust, including Senate Minority Leader Mitch McConnell.

    We have to ask ourselves, why is Tucker Carlson doing this? Why is he seemingly making a completely fool of himself, causing Republican disgust being heaped on the conservative network? Why did he cause respected news sources to subject him to immense ridicule?

    The answer is, Tucker Carlson doesn't care.

    Carlson knows that his audience with their limited education will not hear what Mitch McConnell said. He knows they avoid respected news networks like ABC, CBS, NBC, and CNN.

    Has anyone noticed? Trump Republicans even avoid this reality-based thread,
    The Era of rivalry, Biden vs. Trump and their respective parties

    Trump Republicans are not interested in reality. They are only interested in the fantasies told by Donald Trump, Tucker Carlson, et.al.

    Trump Republicans were allowed to choose our President in 2016. Will we allow them to do it again in 2024?
     
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    I had mixed him up with another officer, who had been attacked with a fire extinguisher (but not killed). This detail does not seem, to my mind, to change the overall narrative: the crowd had been incredibly violent. Police were given concussions, did lose at least one eye, did have bones broken, were attacked with weapons that could do serious harm or kill (including one sword, IIRC), and were sprayed with not just normal pepper spray, but with the incredibly powerful bear spray, which is not intended to be used on human beings. 140 Capitol Police were injured. So, WHAT IS YOUR ULTIMATE POINT?
     
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    Switch gears? Move the goal posts?

    The same FBI director Trump wanted to fire?

    In any case what does that have to do with anything other than prove the FBI has a vendetta?


    Oh god. "We are surpressing information for the good of the people".

    The welfare of humanity is always the alibi of tyrants.

    You haven't got any checks from the FBI have you?
     
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    So, seeing one or two, unexplained images-- which is not the same as these being unexplainable-- is enough to make you forget all the many videos we saw, of people forcing their way through entrances, smashing and climbing through windows, and trying to hunt down particular members, like Nancy Pelosi? Obviously, in that large a number of people, most of whom had previously no contact with one another, there is going to be more than just one perspective, among them. One must consider the larger picture. The few cherry-picked clips of Tucker, do not do this; even added in, to the large bulk of video of a much different character, they do not change the overall narrative. They only provide a pretext, for people who want to dismiss the Trump mob's actions, as not being the vicious, lawless, anti-American behavior, which they clearly were.

    Amongst the large throng of apologists, like yourself, I am sure there are, also, numerous philosophical reasons, motivating your denialisms. From your own, final paragraph, at least one of the impetuses, spurring your own arguments, seems a partisan one, and potentially a racial one. There is no equivalent event, "on the other side." Yet, your words, it is obvious to me, have a spiteful origin, which is being seen through a mentality of two wrongs make a right.
     
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    Other than the flag pole, was anyone in the crowd armed? I keep hearing people say that some were, but I have not seen any actual evidence of that, or even any pertinent public comments about it. Inquiring minds and all of that happy horseshit...
     
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    There were some bats/clubs, pepperspray, tasers, thrown rocks (probably). Supposedly a few guns were confiscated "nearby" (which sounds like not part of the riot). The only firearms brandished or fired were by the police.
     
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    That Rittenhouse was found not guilty, is proof of no "information manipulation." Did he not shoot anyone? The terminology you use, is laughable-- whether it results from an artless attempt of your own, to "manipulate" facts, or merely from a poor ability to accurately expressing facts, through language. What you mean to say, is that the verdict showed that the jurors had a different view of the facts, than many in the mainstream media, on the left. But these are pundits, with news opinion commentary. Are you taking the extreme hypocrisy road, of saying that Tucker is entitled to express opinion, but no one on the left, is? Tell me, what facts, did "the left" manipulate, with the Rittenhouse story? Note, that they broadcast the trial! The "facts"-- just to be sure you follow this-- would be whatever was presented at that trial. So, you are claiming that the MSM-- other than FOX, and assorted others, on the Right-- were misrepresenting the very trial, which they were showing to viewers? That seems a patent crock of bull, to me; but, please, enlighten me with some specific examples, which had informed the opinion, you'd expressed so confidently.
     
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    He did not.
     
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    Yeah sure.
     
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    I couldn't help but notice you couldn't answer the question.
     
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    Maybe we can have someone make us a dossier in crayon.
     
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    You should ask someone who argued against what you asked for. Hint…I’m not that person.
     
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    Musk is one bright cookie, and it's very astute of him to recognize and come right out and say what he did about McConnell. Of course, a few of his bootlicking senators, are afraid of stepping on his toes, so here they are, in lockstep like a bunch of Pelosi sheep.
     
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    What part of "any evidence is behind lock and key" by the accused do you not understand.. Please explain where the evidence you seek is physically located and who has possession.. as I stated .... do you actually think a poll worker noticing questionable ballots would actually break the law and steal one of the ballots so they could take it into court? Tell me you don't believe that...
     
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    What's your point??

    I never mentioned whether Fox's viewership rose or fell, only that they needed to continue their charade & perpetual lying to maintain it. Carlson even used the word 'pretending'.

    The picture painted by these records shows clearly that the high-level Fox staff don't enjoy having to pretend & lie on behalf of people (Trump & his MAGA mob) they clearly know are crackpots & kooks. (Would you?) They've found themselves between a rock and a hard place, because, you know, the money is really really good.
     
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    What I haven't got is any claims the gov't is
    FBI was making supposedly asking twitter to monitor lies on their platform is all you've given to back your claim.
    And all that is known per you link, is twitter got money from the FBI.

    So you haven't come close to proving your claim of gov't manipulation.

    And you earlier falsely claimed the congress was only out of session for 2 hrs from the rioters.
    Which was proven to be an absolute false statement of yours.
     
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    Doors opened?
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    Not that it matters what Musk believes or thinks, but if Musk was smart he'd know that McConnell is a conventional die-hard corporate Republican, but that he (like Bill Barr, et al.) is not going to pander to certifiably insane Trump & his Q-anon clowns. Musk should also understand that Trump/MAGA is not representative of the GOP, but is instead a non-partisan freak show that promotes authoritarian rulership by Trump, blind loyalty to Trump, and corruption at all levels.
     

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