Tulsi Gabbard Asks Trump To Pardon Snowdon & Assange

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  1. Darthcervantes

    Darthcervantes Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I don't have "people"...here on the right, we are individuals and don't speak for one another. If I happen to like her platform and policies then sure, i'd donate within my financial means
     
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    What about exposing the legal, but classified actions of your government?
     
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    A dictator in the making....
     
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    If they are truly legal, what's to 'expose'?
     
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    Actions can be both legal and classified. Snowden exposed legal, classified operations, so I'm unclear why he should be pardoned for that.
     
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    The facts are that what Manning and Snowden revealed were ILLEGAL and classified. That they did was rightfully and morally expose the criminal actions of government and its agents.
     
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    So you are arguing that EVERYTHING revealed by Manning and Snowden were illegal?
     
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    Yes.
     
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    Err OK. End of discussion then.
     
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    Let's put it this way Mike, most of what they revealed, the important things hidden away, were illegal. Like Collateral Murder, like gross violations of the letter and spirit of the First and Fourth Amendments.
     
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    Tulsi is a victim of going up against Hillary and not supporting her in 2016. Hillary's friends at MSNBC spent all year slamming Tulsi.
     
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    Uhhh! Are you thinking of Obama or Biden - if Biden gets in that is. China and Ukraine comes to mind.

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    You don't say!
     
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    Ukraine. The Biden family vacation home
     
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    Gabbard has 42 days for Trump to pardon Assange and Snowden. If the day pass and they can pass fast, it will be too late unless Gabbard can get Biden to do it which I doubt very much.
     
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    I like both Tulsi and Yang. I don't think Yang sold out when he agreed to do segments on CNN. He's never taken the common media lines. He also continues to push for his policy ideas on his own podcast/youtube "Yang Speaks". Tulsi and Yang were both deliberately thrown aside by the corporate media. So was Williamson. They were all slandered and pushed to the side. Tulsi was declared "a russian asset". It has now been admitted that reporters were told not to report on Yang. Williamson was dismissed as a crazy kook, anti-vaxer, etc, and she isn't anywhere near as nutty as she was portrayed as. Booker was also tossed aside unfairly a few times.

    Essentially if you weren't Biden, or one of the establishment backed corporate candidates like Mayor Pete or Kamala Harris, the DNC and their media allies didn't want you and it showed. They did the same to Bernie last time around, and this time he was too big to ignore, so he was demonized.
     
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    I do think there is a golden opportunity here, with Trump in his lame duck period. He's a narcicist and would love to have something to hang his hat on as a legacy. Pardoning Snowden and Assange could be that. And if he doesn't do it, it is VERY unlikely that Biden will, because Biden was involved in what happened to Snowden in the first place (as Snowden himself has stated).

    So hey Mr. President Trump sir, here is something you can do to make a great statement and make a positive change people will remember you fondly for.
     
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    I don't think there is a single thing Trump could do to upgrade his legacy. His position as the worst president in US history is cast in cement.
     
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    Oh he could have been much worse. Much worse can happen. And if the US doesn't get its **** together, worse will come. Imagine Trump level narcicism but competent. Trump's damage was largely limited by his lack of smarts. A smarter version of him could be much much worse.
     
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    Did they 'expose' the 'criminality' of other 'deep states' like Russian or Chinese?
    Or Nth Korean, Cuban, Venezuelan etc..?
    Assange didn't like two women exposing his own criminality and putting their statements on line for all to see.
    I thought it was hilarious when he objected.Not just a traitor, but a real sleaze bag too.
     
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    I recall one interview (I think with John Oliver) in which Snowden was informed people are confusing him with Assange and Snowden did a bit of a double take lol
     

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