Tump makes the worst act of his Presidency

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  1. Golem

    Golem Well-Known Member Donor

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    Trump unilaterally withdrew from the Iran deal. Even though Iran has not violated any part of the deal.

    Not only does that give Iran the perfect excuse to restart their nuclear program, if they chose to do so.. Which was been frozen and with inspectors verifying compliance constantly. But he puts the credibility of the United States in question.

    When this idiot is gone, we might be in time to draw another deal with Iran. But our credibility is gone. And it's going to take at least a generation to recover. Now anybody we want to make an agreement with will have all the reasons to question if we are going to keep our part of the deal.
     
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    ImNotOliver Well-Known Member

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    Are you surprised? Now wait for his great big deal which will be nothing at all.

    By the way was not the deal with colluding with the Russians that Trump would block sanctions against Russia, which he has been doing.

    The TPP was a good deal where la Trump essentially left the US on the outside looking in.
     
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    Uh, files recovered from Iran by spies say otherwise.
     
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    I didn't think it was possible to cede the high ground on credibility and the willingness to adhere to an internationally agreed upon measure to reduce the threat of nuclear war...............to Iran..............but Crazy Donald managed to do it. This might be the most isolationist step taken by any US prez since the end of WW II.
     
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    Golem Well-Known Member Donor

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    You mean the same spies that revealed that Saddam had weapons of mass destruction?
     
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    A really dumb move by a really pathetic president. What happens next will be very interesting - do the other signatory nations hang in there with Iran - the European nations Great Britain, France and Germany, as well as Russia and China? I think there is a chance this could happen. If so, the US would be on its own and would have to theoretically apply sanctions to all these nations - I look forward to this, LOL - think how stupid this would be ;). The US has trashed this agreement and Putin has to be thrilled with this lunacy. Trump, proving once again how he is absolutely unfit he is for office......
     
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    Hold on - months ago you said the worst act of the Trump Presidency was the sanctions against North Korea. Then you said the worst act of the Trump Presidency was the tax cut bill which everyone loves. Then you said the threat of tariffs was the worst act of the Trump Presidency.

    Please do me a favor - continue to call eveything that President Trump does "the worst act of his Pesidency" - so far you're batting zero and President Trump is batting a 1,000
     
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    Yes, the DEMOCRAT deal to keep North Korea from having nuclear weapons worked perfectly, so only an idiot would question that the same DEMOCRAT deal with Iran wouldn't work the same as with North Korea.
     
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    Agreement was a bad idea in the first place. Good riddance.
     
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    There was no deal, only a tentative deal.
     
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    Now Iran is free to enrich all the uranium they want, to as high a percentage as they like.

    nice job Trump, u just brought us another war.

    Nobel Peace Prize huh?
     
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    He has basically given the middle finger to our closest allies.
     
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    north korea wouldn't deal with democrat or republican, they had no intention of making or keeping a deal...Iran on the other had lived up to it's side of the agreement 100%...now the trump has equaled the NKs for breaking agreements...and why should NK believe anything the orange buffon tells them, he has a track record for breaking deals in his business dealings and now political agreements...
     
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    Two of our closest allies are Israel and Saudi Arabia and you can believe when I say that both of them wanted President Trump to do this. Didn't you read about the millions of pages of auithenticated documents recently made public about Irans hidden nuclear program. Right now, Iran is a toothless lion that is causiong a lot of damage through their terrorist networks - when they achieve the A-Bomb and the means to deliver it, they are the most likely to do so. Imagine a terrorist planted A-Bomb being smuggled across the wide open southern border going off in NY City, or DC or LA, Chicago or Houston - that's what Iran with nukes would do.
     
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    no agreement is forever they all have an end point to be looked at and renegotiated at that time...the Iran treaty was good for another 15 yrs, that's an entire generation for political and social change can occur in Iran...Iran has been given a free hand to do what it wants because they're not the ones who broke the treaty, there will be no coalition of nations backing the US in any war with Iran...
     
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    paranoia...you need to see a MD about some getting some meds...
     
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    Trump ran on getting out of this stupid deal. He won.
     
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    Golem Well-Known Member Donor

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    That's not only a lie. It's a misinformed lie. I have always been in favor of sanctions against North Korea forever. Having to defend them from... you It was you who was against them.. And the tax cuts, though idiotic, is not even on my worst five considering all the stupid things he's done.

    You made that up. But it does prove how easy it is to bring up idiotic acts by Tump.
     
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    President Trump did not put the kibosh on this deal....the American people did.
     
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    Golem Well-Known Member Donor

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    You might want to try to educate yourself in History before making such idiotic remark. The North Korea deal that Cliniton signed did keep North Korea from having nuclear weapons. It was when Bush did.... exactly what Trump is doing now: unilaterally withdrawing from the deal, that allowed them to get nukes.

    Learning historical facts won't bite you. You might want to try this one day.
     
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