Wow, what an ass this caliph wannabe Erdogan is. Not only he restored Hagia Sophia, which the Turks stole from the Greeks, to mosque. Now it turns out that just the prelude to getting back the al-Aqsa mosque in Jerusalem. Too much religion, I guess.
Sultan Erdogan is the reason why Turkey will remain outside Europe, Also Turkey under his region became the world’s largest jailer of journalists ( besides Iran maybe ).. Sultan Erdogan is indeed an A$$
EU is a ruin, and anyway it would be a very bad idea for Europe to get common borders with Syria, Iraq. Furthermore, the cultural gap is too important, for minor countries like Albania, it's not a huge problem, but Turkey is around 80 million inhabitants. Furthermore, it's possible that EU already over expanded, without even considering the religious gap. Considering the Hagia Sophia, Erdogan looks like an attention beggar. That's why I don't think it's worthy to mention it too much. I suppose to act like that, he must feel threatened and try to appeal to the most religious part of Turkey to keep in power. Instrumentalize the religious feeling is globally the mark of poor leaders.
Interesting idea. Claim the caliphate for yourself, you just have to back it up with military might. Makes for tense geo politics.
Yes, it is monsieur VotreAltesse. Albanians are goons, for the most part. But I agree - the EU should focus on internal problems, climate change, etc., NOT seek to expand to the Orient. I agree. It seems there is too much religion in Erdogan's head.
Erdogan said turning the ancient Church back to a mosque, was to make Turkey great again. The fanatic and nationalist Turks are all rushing to Constantinople/Istanbul for the first day of prayers on July 24, and the bookings from the Islamic countries are packed. Let's see how long the Turks will tolerate the mosaics and frescoes that were recently restored, since human depictions are not allowed in mosques? When Sultan Mehmet II conquered Constantinople in 1493, he covered them in plaster and turned the ancient Church into a mosque. It was a triumphant gesture on his part, since Islam believes Mohamed succeeds Christ and that political conquest is proof of their beliefs. He also saw himself as the new Roman Emperor. That Islam hasn't added anything to the vision of God given us by Jesus Christ doesn't matter, since in Islam political conquest is paramount. Erdogan believes that by reverting the Church back to a mosque, he will remove the curse and Turkey will become great again - or maybe not. According to the Greeks, it will disappear from the map. One of the old Greek prophecies says, that when the Saints appear in the Church, that Constantinople will be Greek again. During the earthquake in 1998, the plaster began falling off, and lo and behold, there were the Saints. Okay Erdogan, let's see whose prophecy will win? Watch out Erdy!....….…...…………………….....……..
Don't minimize Albania, since they consider themselves Turks and work in tandem with Ankara. They have plans in the works for a greater Albania that will include Kosovo, part of Serbia, Macedonia and Greece. Of course Soros supports it, this is why the Macedonians were carrying signs 2 years ago, saying Soros go home. Erdogan has managed over the past ten years to visit every nation with a Turkish minority and arouse a sense of nationalism in them. Some nations complained about how after his visits, the Turks living there would start questioning their borders. The largest Turkish group is probably the Uyghurs in China, and many of them did join the terrorists in Syria. This is why Merkel would not allow Erdogan to speak to the Turkish people when he visited Germany a few years back. He's a real demagogue and has an uncanny way of arousing the Turkey people, and making them feel victimized over the break up of the Ottoman Empire after WWI.
Thanks for letting me know, I didn't realize that. I just look for an image that suits my thoughts, but since it is the crown of Serbia, then I guess it was meant to be a reflection of Erdogan's ambitions. The quest for a Greater Albania which would include Kosovo and a part of Serbia, would be an extension of the Turkish and the Ottoman world. In reference to Aghia Sophia, Erdogan said something to the effect that the Sultan was the head of the Orthodox Church. This was incoherent to most, but not though if one considers that Islam sees Mohamed as superseding Christ. Islam unites the political with the spiritual, so the conquest of Constantinople would automatically make the Sultan the successor of the Holy Roman (Byzantine) Emperor and therefore the head of the Orthodox Church. When Pope Benedict XVI made reference to Mohamed superseding Christ, by quoting a Byzantine Emperor asking a Muslim cleric: "What did Mohamed give us beyond the perception/vision of God given to us by Christ," it fell beyond their comprehension, so they took it as an insult and felt slighted.
The taking of Al Aqsa is the biggest provocation for a Holy War there is. All you people believe you can just colonise all of the land the Palestinian people had been living on for thousands of years ...and yes it is religion and that is why Israel is talking Al Aqsa supported by the Christian Zionists who need to put their third Temple there before they get Armageddon and Rapture. Christian Zionists on this thread should not be complaining. This is just what you want - without the Islamic Countries being successful until you have helped 'the Jews' build the third Temple. You want the Holy War and you are and have been doing absolutely everything you can to make it so. This is the jewel for you. The human beings do not even exist. You believe Saudi Arabia and its cronies and Jordan and the other states which you have not destroyed for this day will let it be so. We shall see.
Is it religion or is it a national pride that's being expressed through faith? Here's a quote of how the Turks feel from a writer in the New York Times. The first prayer at the Hagia Sophia mosque will take place on July 24, the anniversary of the Treaty of Laussane, signed between the Allied powers and Turkey, which drew the boundaries of modern Turkey. Mr. Erdogan will want the Western world especially to watch closely, because the ceremony will represent what he considers the reclamation of Turkish sovereignty from its clutches. What comes out of the Hagia Sophia’s gates today is a spirit that sees itself as inherently good and its chosen enemies as inherently evil. It is the spirit of revenge, and it has catching up to do. If one follows the Turkish news, they would know that their chosen enemies are not the ones they fought such as Russia, but the people they had displaced, killed or enslaved such as: The Armenians, Greeks, Assyrians, and Serbs. As for the reclamation of Turkish sovereignty, well that would be fine if he meant reverting to their former alphabet and faith, but it's not what Erdogan meant, or he wouldn't be referring to the Treaty of Lausanne - which was really a compromise. The actual Treaty was that of Sevres, and it would have given the land Turkey is now on back to its original inhabitants: Greeks, Armenians, Kurds and Assyrians. Erdogan right now doesn't consider Russia an enemy, even though the Ottomans fought and lost 16 wars with them, because they fear and respect military power. To them, only those who are vulnerable are enemies. It's opportunism at its best. https://www.nytimes.com/2020/07/14/opinion/hagia-sophia-turkey-mosque.html
There is an expression that one cannot see the trees for the forest. Well it fits well for the West whenever it came to Turkey. The genocides and enslavements were always ignored out of a Western paranoia towards Russia. Well the paranoia continues. Turkey has delineated the Mediterranean with Libya and it incorporates the Greek waters and turns all of the Eastern Mediterranean into a Turkish lake. But it doesn't matter, all that matters is to keep Russia out. As for today, Turkey is drilling for oil in Cypriot waters, even though those waters have been designated to France, Italy and the US. But it doesn't matter either, all that matters is to keep Russia out. So to keep Russia out we're starving the Syrians and stealing their oil. We're also ignoring Turkey's aggressions and support of terrorists in Syria and Libya. Yeah, I see the forest, but where are the trees?
I don't think it's attention. It's Erdogan's megalomania getting the best of him. Now that he's converted Aghia Sophia back into a mosque, he thinks Turkey is invincible and that Mehmet the Conqueror's curse is gone. Right now he's supporting terrorists and has troops fighting the Syrian army, while in Libya he won't sign a peace treaty and has ships, tanks and jets ready to take over the city of Sitre and the oil wells. Yet Egypt said any attack on Sitre is a red line, and its armed forces are lined up at the border. Turkey is also fighting the Kurds in Iraq, while at the same time provoking and threatening Greece. To top it off, yesterday there were mass protests in Azerbaijan for war with Armenia, and Turkey said they will support them - yet, Armenia is allied with Russia. `
I'm glad I managed to sneak in there and see it before the inevitable return to the Bronze Age. I could smell the tear gas wafting over from Taksim Square, and I knew that wasn't a harbinger of progress to come.
To my knowledge, the Zionists are Jewish, not Christian. No, that's Muslims and Jews. Christians are predominantly docile people, so please leave them alone.
love the outfit... it does make him look like he has boobs though... did they photoshop this off a women?
Turkey lobbied for years to become a member state of the EU. Thank God (Allah, Jehovah, Buddha, the 300 million Hindu gods, Oprah Winfrey or whoever you worship that that didn’t happen) Turkey is now just another authoritarian state but this time a theocratic one.
Turkey still refuses to take responsibility for the Armenian massacre. That tells me everything I need to know about Turkey. I suspect that Turkey and Israel and Greece could come to blows and I have no idea where Putin will side. Probably with Turkey to form an alliance that stretches from Ankara to Iran and that of course will draw in the US. Could get quite ugly!
I don't know what Turkey is doing in Libya. They support Pres. Saraj, while Russia, Greece, France, Saudi Arabia, Egypt and UAE are against him. Egypt said that if Turkey tries to take the city of Sitre - which controls the outflow of the oil in the region, it will be a red line for them. And yet Erdogan refuses to sign a peace agreement and has his navy and forces outside the city - so what's his game? The big problem though is Greece and Cyprus. Turkey is ignoring Greek's boundaries in the sea and land, so as to provoke Greece into a war. If Greece doesn't go to war, it will be losing it sovereignty to Turkey, yet if Greece does go to war they might lose some islands. Most of the Greek people see war as inevitable. As for the EU, it is useless because Germany is heavily invested in Turkey, and also has an affinity towards its former allies. They showed this affinity when they broke up Yugoslavia and backed the Croatians, Bosnians and Albanians to the detriment of the Serbians who were our allies. Clinton backed Germany in that. Merkel wants Greece to hand over part of its sovereignty concerning its territorial waters to Turkey - even though those waters are also EU waters. France though is furious with Turkey, and wants them to be kicked out of Nato because they are a hindrance economically to them in Cyprus and Libya. I guess since Germany's WWII experience is different than ours, kowtowing to aggressors is fine - but then again, we are the aggressors today as well.
Your knowledge of history is missing a few chapters - like the one titled "The 1000 Years of Horror".
