Two beasts rising up.. one out of oceans one out of land.

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  1. DennisTate

    DennisTate Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    My theory on the meaning of two beasts being raised up is that
    a huge part of humanity will soon unite against the threat of rising ocean levels.....
    whereas another part of humanity will unite against the threat of
    GMO's and other technology that is destroying the land.

    G-d told Moses that human technological capability was without cap or limit when
    humans truly united against a common problem..... or perhaps around a positive goal.

    Genesis 11:6

    "And the LORD said, Behold, the people is one, and they have all one language; and this they begin to do: and now nothing will be restrained from them, which they have imagined to do."


     
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  2. DennisTate

    DennisTate Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I strongly suspect that the first beast......
    could be centred in America and Israel and may unite around
    a method of climate stabilization that could actually work........
    large scale desalination of ocean water to turn deserts green........

    We President Trump supporters tend to take Isaiah 35 seriously......

    Isaiah 35:1


    The wilderness and the solitary place shall be glad for them; and the desert shall rejoice, and blossom as the rose.

    .....
    Isa 35:6

    Then shall the lame man leap as an hart, and the tongue of the dumb sing: for in the wilderness shall waters break out, and streams in the desert."

    Even our buddy AboveAlpha had no hope of a carbon tax actually working to stabilize the climate:

    http://www.politicalforum.com/index...erm-effects-of-climate-change-logical.454306/
    Is this analysis of the probable long term effects of climate change logical?
    But... . one nation on earth has experienced COOLING in their climate since 1950....
    that nation is Israel... and on a per capita basis they led the world in planting trees and
    in large scale desalination of ocean water for agriculture, reforestation projects and for
    towns experiencing drought.

    I think that it is time for the political right to embrace climate change........
    but along with a very different type of solution than a silly carbon tax or cap and trade system
    that would obviously get taken over by bureaucrats and lawyers and would not
    accomplish much of anything anyway.


    This will be good news for America's large cities.......


    http://www.politicalforum.com/index...change-is-real.503883/page-15#post-1067789386

     
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    tecoyah Well-Known Member

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    .................Neat...............tecoyah back away slowly
     
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    Spooky Banned Donor

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    Its rather pointless to read Revelations, it can't be understood by us.

    Its only there for context.......God had to end the Bible some way.
     
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    Chester_Murphy Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I think those who have read it and remember it will see the connections when it happens, but nothing will be revealed prior.
     
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    It specifically states in there that none of us will see it coming.

    At least I'm pretty sure that's in Revelations. I personally don't think it will happen for millions of years yet.
     
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    That's not really what I meant. I was under the impression we will realize that what is happening is in revelation, but we won't know when it will start.

    What makes you think it will be so long till it happens? I'm not saying it will happen soon, but of course there are many who believe it will, as happens every year.
     
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    Ahhh, my mistake......Yes I think you are correct that we will notice it when it does occur.

    As for the timeline Its just my guess and not really based on anything. I just don't see why God would create the human race just to end it so quickly.......a few thousand years or whatever its been is nothing to Him. I think we will colonize space, even meet other races before God ends it all.
     
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    Depends on how much He wants to put up with, I guess. Whenever it is time, it's time.
     
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    Yes...... you backing away slowly is logical but.........
    do you think that there is any possibility that AboveAlpha may have read the opening post in my discussion:

    http://www.politicalforum.com/index...llar-shane-warren-sees-this-in-vision.349484/
    (April 2, 2014):
    George Soros calls for death of the USA dollar... Shane Warren sees this in vision?!

    .....
    ......previous to his sending me the personal message containing the number 4.3 trillion......
    that put me into a brain spasm of greed.... combined with fear..... and paranoia....... and ideas on prophecy.....
    not to mention prostefy that I had read since I was a teenager in the '70's?

    Do you think that Above Alpha would......
    1. get a good laugh out of the almost inevitable mental spasm that he knew that I would go off into?????
    2. know that for all my many flaws I might just be able to mobilize a segment of North American conservatives around a plan to turn deserts green.... .as a response to climate change that has some serious advantages over a carbon tax.....?

    You have already read message number 18 on this page.......
    but you might want to review the part about the helicopter:

    (Note.... if you click on the little arrow beside the post quoted in #18 you will not be able to view it.... because it was a personal message to me).......

    http://www.politicalforum.com/index...weimar-republic-inflation-i-ever-read.502018/
    Best explanation for Weimar Republic Inflation I ever read....

    .......

    Do you think that AA is almost certainly getting a good laugh out of what I am planning these days????

    http://www.politicalforum.com/index...ump-has-a-4-3-trillion-dollar-problem.525406/
     
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    I don't have proof exactly that AboveAlpha's variation of Multiverse Theory is valid.....
    but I have ran into evidence for it from several sources.......

    ..... Near death experiencer Dannion Brinkley in 1975 saw a possible alternate time line that obviously did not come to pass but........
    it could have happened in an alternate universe / applied example of Multiverse Theory.........
    and it sure did fit with the Book of Revelation........ but what is wild is that our future will fit with the Book of Revelation as well.......
    but in a totally different manner than this other fulfillment.......... (I think)??!

    http://www.qsl.net/w5www/brinkley.html

     
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    Unfortunately ***** ********* (Above Alpha) is incapacitated currently and unable to read anything in his current state.
     
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    DennisTate Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    True....... Messiah Yeshua - Jesus does not like being nailed down......
    in any way shape or form......
    and has inspired the Book of Revelation in a way that an essentially infinite number of surprisingly positive
    outcomes could come to pass..........
    that will amaze us for how the probable 70% to 90% depopulation of the earth is prevented in the time line that we are going into.

    http://www.politicalforum.com/index...oom-and-doom-prophecies-be-an-alegory.443380/

    Could ninety percent of gloom and doom prophecies be an alegory?
     
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    Then it is time for the Jewish people to begin a mourning for another possible Moshiach ben Ephrayim......
    who was certainly anointed for warfare.......


    http://www.politicalforum.com/index...s-for-the-role-of-elijah-needed.499830/page-3
    Auditions for the role of Elijah needed....


    Moshiach ben Ephrayim / Yosef:

    https://www.chabad.org/library/article_cdo/aid/101747/jewish/Appendix-II.htm
     
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    AA is NOT injured or otherwise in physical danger. Do not count him out.
     
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    Well, I hope you are correct. I don't think it's prudent to believe that. I do not believe we are taught to believe that. Let your guard down and let the evil one in. Doubt is the enemy.
     
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    It is not exactly that I believe that a significant depopulation of the earth can be easily avoided.......
    I think it will be extremely difficult to do and a high percentage of us will have to make
    amazingly good decisions.......
    much better than we made last year and the year before.... but.... I do believe that
    the genuine freedom of choice that we have been given......
    in theory makes it possible for humanity to come together over a number of highly ethical things to do............?!

    We really cannot go wrong by producing food even in desert areas......
    and bringing back the buffalo to the plains of North America in order to cause the soil to become a much more effective CARBON SINK?

    When I was a teenager, Mr. Herbert W. Armstrong and his son Mr. Garner Ted Armstrong taught me that the FOURTH REICH..... the final resurrection of the Roman Empire...... comparable to the feet and toes of iron mixed with clay.....of the image of Daniel chapter 2..... would be centered in Europe.......
    it is only a few years since the possibility dawned on me that perhaps.........
    America and Canada could be the center of the western half of that revived Roman Empire......
    and that might not be entirely bad news..........

    There is astonishing potential value in the ability to admit to our own guilt.....
    and the guilt of our past........
    the ARTISTIC value of what Canada's P. M. Stephen Harper did in 2008 is actually pretty amazing.

    Postulating what could have been done differently in previous decades could become an important part of our film and literary industry.


    http://www.cbc.ca/archives/entry/a-long-awaited-apology-for-residential-schools

    A long-awaited apology for residential schools
     
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    Why do you say this?
     
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    Seems to me we were told in the Gospel, that pretty much life would be going on as usual when the end starts. When I keep that in mind, I don't dwell on guessing, but sometimes I let myself enjoy the thoughts of others. I just try to be careful not to believe what is not in the Gospel.

    Hey, you may know something I don't. I'm not disregarding your opinions. I'm just sharing my own. ymmv or your mileage may vary, as they tell you with mpg on autos.
     
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    It is something of a game of subterfuge designed to play on the infatuation of Dennis.
     
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    My theory would fit with this video.......

     
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    And you might want to check out post #24.......
    but I plead guilty......
    by 2023..... AboveAlpha might just have been prepared and set up legally by Presidential or
    Vice Presidential agreement that would allow him to get involved in politics openly............

    Each situation that we face in life is unique......
    each new time line / example of applied Multiverse Theory is unique......
    and we have a responsibility to be open to respond to each set of circumstances differently........

    What AboveAlpha has taught us about Multiverse... .about the probable impacts of a changing climate......
    his FEL system for Sderot...... his warning about major cities spending billions on pumping sea water out of the subway systems......

    ..... all of this does indeed set him up to be like a veritable Moshiach ben Ephrayim / Yosef......
    especially the Yair Davidiy variation on that theme......

    http://www.britam.org/messiah.html
    MOSHIACH BEN YOSEPH
    by Yair Davidiy

    ....
     

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