U.S. Anti-Arab Terrorism

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  1. Horhey

    Horhey Well-Known Member

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    It's not even limited to Muslims. As long they're Middle Eastern people, they're fair game. Americans tolerate it, in part, because about half of the population has an American Sniper mentality. As Kris Kyle, the real American hero himself, wrote in his memoirs, describing how his first kill felt when he shot a woman in the head who had walked into the street with a grenade in her hand as the Marines attacked her village.

    Indeed:

    So let's review the facts of the U.S. global assassination program and see if this mentality still holds.

    The murder of child for the sins of his father:

    And now we're supposed to believe the recent killing of his sister by Navy Seals was collateral damage:

    That is a prima facie case.
     
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    If the enemy wore uniforms and did not hide within their own families this would not happen. Their doing so is what causes the deaths of their families and civilians. It has been the USA's military policy to NOT use civilians as human shields for well over 100 years, though it was common practice in the Indian wars in the West to use NA woman and children as human shields.
     
  3. Horhey

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    You didn't read anything did you?
     
  4. Horhey

    Horhey Well-Known Member

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    The facts on the ground:

     
  5. Chris Knight

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    What about the 3000 civilians that died in the World Trade Centres, or the civilians that die every day/week/month from radical Islamic suicide bombers.

    The fact is that Radical/Jihadist Islam indoctrinate young children to commit terrorist attacks against civilians. A quick youtube search will reveal this.

    So the issue is the political-religious ideology of Islam.
     
  6. Horhey

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    You're essentially advocating a holocaust. And you don't even know "why they hate us."

    Some perspective on the threat of terrorism:

    In contrast:

     
  7. Chris Knight

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    I am not advocating a holocaust or genocide. I am advocating to provide safe passage of Muslims out of Western countries until they reform their political-religious ideology. Muslims that are passive and who embrace Western laws and values can remain. Any Muslim inciting hatred, violence and Sharia Law in Western democracies is to be resettled in a Muslim country or put in jail for life. Zero tolerance of Radical/Jihadist Islam in Western democracies needs to be implemented now. The thousands of Radical/Jihadist Islamic organisations need to be shutdown. The Muslim Students Associations in our universities need to be shutdown as they incite Jihad and violence against fellow citizens.

    What sort of peaceful ideology grooms young children to commit suicide and violence? Islam is not peaceful and must be reformed to exist in our Western democracies. Our Western democratic governments have an obligation to protect our citizens from this violent, barbaric and dangerous ideology.
     
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    I agree with your sentiment that we do not need a large scale war or holocaust or genocide or anything of the such. Right now, the risk of bringing in migrants that do not accept the culture is more dangerous than the actual threat. The idea of losing the free culture that people currently enjoy requires heavier vetting and a change to the "open door" policy. The rise in rape and attacks that are brought on by migrants has a basis in their cultural belief that they do not respect women on the same level as men and that they believe westerners are subhuman.

    I am all for diversity and helping people stuck in war stricken countries, but the west needs to find a new way to integrate these people and make sure they respect the cultural pillars that we have such as free speech, respect of women and lgbt, and religious freedom.
     
  9. Horhey

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    I would prefer you take your broad brush out of my thread.
     
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    Garbage in garbage out.
     
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    I don't think the US is anti-Arab in the least. There are all kinds of Arabs - Christian Arabs, Jewish Arabs, Alawite Arabs all manner of Arabs. Seems to me it's mostly the Muslim Arabs who are causing all the fuss. Why would that be, could it be because it's their intention to wipe out all other religions?
     
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    Forum: Political Issues --- Warfare / Military --- Terrorism --- U.S. Anti-Arab Terrorism
    Horhey; Chris Knight; et al,

    Each of you has something that needs to be said, and aired-out. But the framework in this question of "Anti-Arab" is probably off target a bit. While it is not possible to say that there is no "anti-Arab" sentiment, it is incorrect to assume that America (as a culture) has a problem with all Arabs (as a culture). The US has a problem with "Hostiles" of all cultures. As an example, the US has a problem with "Hostile Arab Palestinians" (HoAP). Why:

    § The US takes the HoAP as a credible threat based on its extensive past pattern of criminal behavior.

    • Palestinians Threaten President-Elect Trump W/Holy War If Embassy Moved To Jerusalem by Jeff Dunetz | Jan 8, 2017 | Foreign Policy/Terrorism, Israel

    § The US finds that bowing to terrorism, no matter what the magnitude, only emboldens and encourages further activism by that greater criminal community.

    • Abbas's Fatah Calls to Conquer Israel 'By Force' --- Fatah 'Nakba' messages call for terrorism as 'only' way to take entire state of Israel for its own, while showing off its terror branches. By: Ari Yashar, 25/05/15

    § The US, as a nation takes the opposes both the people and the government that encourages hostile terrorist action or provides material and political material support. If such people or government, if gone unopposed, will use Jihadism, Deadly Fedayeen Action, Hostile Insurgency Operations, Radicalized Islamic Behaviors, and Asymmetric Violence as a first means of acquiring what they could not achieve by peaceful means.

    • There is no solution for the Palestinian question except through Jihad. Initiatives, proposals and international conferences are all a waste of time and vain endeavors.
    • “We are imposing a new reality on the Israeli occupation,” said Salah Bardawil, a Hamas spokesman. “All the factions are here, and the Hamas flags embrace the Palestinian flags and the Fatah flags. We need to extend the Arab revolution to all Palestine from the sea to the river, and every refugee returns to his home.”
    • Abbas' Fatah encourages more terror attacks and continues to heat up atmosphere in Jerusalem "Run over, friend, run over the foreign settler!" -- "The Jews are defiling Al-Aqsa - will you not rage?"
    • Last weekend, the Palestinian Authority [PA] executed a media blitz against the relocation of the US embassy from Tel Aviv to Jerusalem. The campaign was designed to discourage US President-elect Donald Trump whose people have already begun checking out the technical details. Abbas made a preemptive strike. He instructed Palestinian preachers, in their sermons last Friday in mosques, to upgrade the transfer of the American embassy to Jerusalem from a political matter to a religious principle that Muslims from all over the world are commanded to resist, meaning that it’s grounds for jihad; by: Ron Ben-Yishai 11 January 2017.
    • In Fatah Congress Address, Palestinian Authority President Abbas Praises Dead Terrorist Leaders as ‘Martyrs’ by Barney Breen-Portnoy “They are all our heroes, you will not forget them, they are immortal in our people’s memory, and the homeland of Palestine,” Abbas was quoted as saying. “Their sacrifices will not be in vain.”
    • TEL AVIV – Palestinian President Mahmoud Abbas praised a Jordanian terrorist who attempted to stab Israeli Border Police officers in Jerusalem on Friday as “a martyr who watered the pure earth of Palestine with his blood.” by DEBORAH DANAN 21 Sep 2016
    • Hamas-affiliated media has published an article by a senior Hamas official arguing that Hamas has the right to attack Israeli embassies and interests as well as senior Israeli officials anywhere in the world. According to a MERI translation, the article also argued that “the resistance” is also entitled to harm the interests of Israel’s allies including the US. By gmbwatch on July 22, 2013

    (COMMENT)

    There is no question that the US has a terrorist threat; an entire collection of concise but detailed information about the particular Hostile Arab Threat could be written. The question is not about whether there is a threat, but is about how we as American, a nation, and it diverse cultures of people respond to the use of violence and intimidation in the pursuit of HoAP political objectives that they could not achieve by peaceful means. Yes, it IS NOT the comparative magnitude or frequency of the threat (terrorism vs cancer --- etc); it is about how we react to the projection of HoAP coercion and intimidation against our government and the civilian population in furtherance of what "we as a nation" choose as in or best interest; political or social objectives.

    There is an American mantra that dates back over two centuries ago that says: "Don't Tread on Me." It is short and sweet, yet holding to a deep conviction and "warning" to others as to NOT take advantage of, intimidate or coerce "We the People of America." It is the "Gadsden Flag" of the coiled snake. It is who we are.

    Most Respectfully,
    R
     
  13. Chris Knight

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    Thank you for the overview. I can certainly agree with your points.
     
  14. Horhey

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    You talk as if Washington is working to reduce the threat terror even though they have knowingly been increasing it since 1991. And you somehow don't notice that the U.S. has been supporting the most radical regimes in the Middle East since the 1940s. The U.S. helped the reactionary regimes suppress secular Arab nationalism, which was the real threat to U.S. oil interests in the region at the time. Israel began supporting Hamas to undermine the secular PLO.

    Washington knows full well that it's drone program is a terrorist generating machine and yet it expanded during the Obama administration. They also know that U.S. policy in the Middle East in general increases the threat the terror.

    Plainly, for U.S. decision makers, maintaining U.S. hegemony in the region is simply more important than reducing the threat terror.

    And none of you say anything about any of these policies because you just don't care.
     
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    Your defense of what I showed in my first post suggests otherwise. Only a fascist could think that there's nothing wrong with the U.S. is doing.
     
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    Well I am not a facist. I think you need to remember that very blanket of freedom and liberty that so comfortably sleep under each night comes at cost.
     
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    You speak of freedom and liberty while at the same time you advocate locking up Muslims for life if they refuse to convert.
     
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    The USA isn’t much of a hegemony in the region. Saudi Arabia and Iran do whatever they like whenever they feel like. If I was the USA I wouldn't want to be in position where Saudi Arabia has any form of leverage of my decisions. The only thing the Saudis have is oil. Perhaps the USA should look at new deals with Venezuela, Canada and Russia for oil. Then the USA would have the leverage over Saudi Arabia and tell them what to do if they want protection from the USA.
     
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    I never said that.
     
  20. Horhey

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    Ok, I misread it but your defense of indiscriminate killing of Middle Easterners says plenty enough.
     
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    Bogus war on terror.

    [video=youtube_share;Y4kOkDlN-U8]http://youtu.be/Y4kOkDlN-U8[/video]​
     
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    Guess I'm fascist because I support eliminating terrorism. I'm fine with that.
     
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    I guess so. The facts do not support your assumption that this strategy reduces the threat of terrorism. It actually increases it because it turns out that when you kill people's family members and friends they get pissed off and want revenge. Go figure.
     
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    Anyone who can look at this face and think that's ok to kill her should look at the Nazi terrorist in the mirror.

    [video=youtube_share;GdLhrEEa32w]https://youtu.be/GdLhrEEa32w[/video]​
     
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    Civilians die in any war. It's something that has always happened and will happen in any war moving forward. I'm surprised this is news to you now.

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    We should use bigger bombs.
     

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