Egoboy, this is the best thread ever.... You rock! Update to my gas price comment.... Just filled up the 2nd family vehicle, this time using our November Gas points. $3.09 for 15.5 gallons... I hope everybody out there uses some sort of grocery/gas points program. If you are going to whine about gas price fluctuations, you'd have to be a little clueless not to partake in one....or multiple.