Ukraine: Far-right activists mark 78th anniversary of Ukrainian SS division in capitel Kiev

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  1. Ostap Bender

    Ostap Bender Well-Known Member

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    I'm missing outrage of Western MSM. What would happen when Hitler admirers do similar in Berlin now. But in the case of Ukraine it's fine. Unbelievable, but Biden wants to start WWIII for protection of Ukrainian SS morons.

    Dozens of locals hit the streets of the Ukrainian capital on Wednesday to mark the 78th anniversary of the formation of the Waffen SS division which fought for the Nazis during World War II. Protesters hold posters and emblems of the so-called 14th Waffen Grenadier Division of the SS also known as the 14th SS-Volunteer Division 'Galicia', and yellow and blue flowers after the colours of the Ukrainian national flag. A banner reading 'Ukraine won't forget the soldier with a gold lion on the sleeve,' which refers to the emblem of the 'Galicia' division, could be seen hanging from a bridge. The 14th Waffen Grenadier Division of the SS (1st Galician) was a military unit comprised of Ukrainian volunteers fighting on the side of Nazi Germany. The division, which was formed in 1943, became part of the Ukrainian National Army after the retreat of Nazi forces from Ukraine, before surrendering to Allied forces on May 10, 1945. The division has been accused of carrying out numerous atrocities, brutally murder of more as 50,000 Jews, destruction of Polish communities in Western Ukraine and the massacre of civilians during 'anti-guerrilla' actions.




    Obviously darlings of Biden, Merkel, Macron & Co

     
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    Robert Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    We have many Americans defending both Communists plus the Nazi party of old.
    Sadly they elected Biden.
     
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    Well they are anti Moscow.
    That is good enough for :flagus:
    Like Latin America & Africa policies
     
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    The key word in your post is "dozens"...i.e. not very many. Somehow, I doubt neo-Nazis are very popular in Ukraine.
     
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    Biden as supp
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    Biden as supporter of SS Nazis.
    It's something wrong here.
    Probably he's forgotten who are they
     
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    Ostap Bender Well-Known Member

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    It looks like Biden would support Hitler and Mao to anger Russia.
    Ukrainian SS Nazis openly sell Main Kampf, all kinds of antisemitic literature, claim there was never Holocaust and openly wear swastika.
    And Biden give them money of American taxpayers.
    I guess the guy should feel himself better in a nursing home as in D.C.

    Friends of Biden

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    Propaganda from someone too dumb to spell "salute" correctly.
     
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    What we have is millions of Americans falling prey to foreign propaganda that is fed to them on a steady basis via fake news sites, blogs and social media trolls.
     
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    The Bidens, both Joe the Big Guy and Hunter the child support evader are known to profit bigly off of their international political standing. I'm sure neither have worries about future financial issues.
     
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    Even if one SS Nazi goes in Germany he will be immediately imprisoned.

    On May, 2nd, 2014 Ukrainian Nazis burned alive more as 500 Russians in Odessa.
    No one has been punished for the crime.
    Today they admire it and laughing about victims, claim God had burned them.( picture below )
    Where are western MSM and so-called 'human rights activists'?

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    Of course America should support trash of human civilization for achieving of its doubtful goals.
     
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    Biden stole the election from Trump and want to start WWIII as punishment of Russia for its attitude towards SS lovers
    I guess someone should be crazy here
     
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    In my opinion anyone who wears swastika and does Hitler salute isn't a human, so those who condemn brown animals are allowed to misspell word as them please
     
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    Ukraine: Far-right activists mark 78th anniversary of Ukrainian SS division in capital Kiev


    WUNDERBAR !!


    When Hitler's courageous German sword chased out antichrist Stalin's evil red army... Germans saved Kiev's churches, including risking their lives to save St Volodymyr's Cathedral that Stalin's red army had loaded with explosives so Stalin could destroy it [as he had destroyed Moscow's Church of Christ the Saviour] as his antichrist red army left Kiev.

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    I wouldn't put that manure on my vegetable garden!
    I don't doubt what you say as much as how you connect the dots.
    "Dots" years apart.


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    I would have thought you a better judge of manure
    Tejas, steers et al ;)
     
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    These are the folks we funded to oppose Russia in Ukraine. Yay us...
     
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    The UN report listed fewer than 50 killed. Seems to have been begun a few months after the Russian occupation of the Crimea and as a result of an initial sports rally, that evolved into battles between pro-Russian Ukrainians and anti-Russian Ukrainians. I believe 46 of some 48 dead were pro-Russians. What proof do you have that the anti-Russian Ukrainians were all neo-Nazis?
     
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    Anyone who admires Nazis and Nazism is an animal and not human

     
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    The trash of civilization like Ukrainian Nazis, ISIS, TonTonMakuto, Taliban & Co are the best allies of D.C.
     
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    Propaganda supports Biden. Why nitpick the Ukraine Nazi party? Biden does not.
     
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    My proofs you will reject immediately as pro-Russian propaganda.
    By the way were brutally murdered more as 600 - 700 protestors, unfortunately YouTube cleans such videos permanent out.
    Crimea was never Ukrainian territory, Ukrainian Khrushchev give it as gift to his homeland without any law.
    Ukraine shall give its stolen territorials to Poland and Russia back


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    Anyone interested to know WHO called Hitler's liberation of Christian nations from evil antichrist marxist Stalin... Hitler's courageous German sword ??

    It was Metropolitan Anastasy the head of the Russian Orthodox Church in exile [the Holy Synod was exiled in Serbia at the time] who praised Hitler's liberation of Russian lands as Hitler's courageous German sword in his 1942 Pascha [Easter] sermon. He also compared Christian nations who were being liberated by Hitler from evil mass-murdering antichrist marxist Stalin, to being resurrected from the dead.

    Alas it was not to be.

    FDR sent billions [over 11 billion total of US taxpayers money] in military aid and hardware [trucks, tanks, planes, etc] to evil mass-murdering antichrist marxist Stalin to keep him in power, defeat Hitler and occupy/enslave half of Europe.

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    Interesting maps. Wow! If you start in 1654, that must mean we have to give virtually all of the U.S. back to Native Americans. Stalin's acquisitions must be due to the German-Soviet Non-Aggression Pact in 1939, regarding the division of Poland. I assume after WW II, he retook that portion of Poland and compensated the Poles by giving them an approximate equal space carved out of East Germany. Khrushchev's "gift" was for their support for him during WW II, when he was Stalin 's chief Commissar in Ukraine. A little short-sighted given Russia's long quest for warm-water ports and the naval bases established there as their gateway to the Mediterrrean and on to the Atlantic, in proper geopolitical fashion. But, then the shoe-stomper may have done it in some sort of revenge mode, since he also exposed the Stalin's Great Terror and the purges. Not sure about Lenin's additions...presume they came from the Russian Civil War after WW I.

    IF Putin had solid intelligence regarding U.S. intentions toward turning Ukraine to the NATO and the West, he probably had little choice between remaining in power in Russia if he allowed NATO to move into former Russian naval bases and taking the Crimea back. Wilsonian "self determination?" Hilary was always more hawkish on U.S. foreign policy than Bill (or Biden for that matter). If she and Victoria had a plan...it was similar to Monty's attack through the Netherlands in the Allied rush for Berlin...a Bridge Too Far. Anyhow, Putin's ironic turn toward "self-determination" should have been expected, not to mention the naval bases. Anyhow, the quirky Democratic revival of the post WW II Republican "roll-back" strategy (never instituted, thanks to Ike, who knew the meaning of war) brought on the sanctions, which would mean a near death blow to Russia's major export...fossil fuels, which I suppose Hilary could have interpreted as Putin's slow death of a thousand cuts, rather than a WW III no-one would support.

    Given all of that, it's entirely possible that Putin looked upon the election of Clinton as a Russian existential issue.

    At this point I'll introduce another theory of mine...Dr.Kissinger and his possible advice to incoming President Donald Trump. [Kissinger met several times with Trump, both at the Trump Tower in NYC and in the Oval Office after Trump's election. In fact, I believe there is a picture of Kissinger meeting with Trump just ahead of Trump's meeting with the Russian Ambassador to the U.S. and the Russian Foreign Minister, right after Trump had fired Comey.] Kissinger, known for his pragmatic and Realpolitik, basically divided the Sino-Soviet Bloc, to end the Vietnam War and open China to U.S. trade. "Divide and conquer" is a very, very old strategy. Kissinger borrowed it from Castlereigh, the British representative at the Congress of Vienna that divided up Napoleon's conquests, after his fall at Waterloo. From the Congress of Vienna to WW I, British foreign policy was to formulate an alliance with one of the Continental powers, in order to protect their island. France was a traditional Continental enemy, so at Waterloo they had allied with Prussia (whose Calvary Corps saved the day for Wellington. Kissinger wrote his doctoral thesis on the subject and the Congress of Vienna. And, he subsequently deployed a similar strategy to end the Vietnam War by splitting the Russians from the Chinese. My theory is that Kissinger pitched a similar strategy to Trump...only this time we'd ally ourselves with Russia vs. the growing Superpower of China. This is all conjecture, but I suspect such a strategy appealed to Trump for personal reasons (a new Moscow hotel, lifting the sanctions to allow the Exxon-Mobil Arctic drilling deal go through, thus pleasing an important part of his donor base) and a "legitimate" national defense strategy.

    So...whether there was a secret "collusion," which Mueller could not find, or simply a broad "silent understanding" between Trump and Putin it didn't matter much in national security terms, if it did matter in "evidence rising beyond a reasonable doubt" to get a criminal prosecution.

    Just a thought.
     
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    I believe during WW I, Wilson chose a similar course, but less effective, with the Anglo-American-Japanese intervention in the Russian civil war in an effort to keep Russia in the war against Germany.
     
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    Russian active measures are effective on under-educated partisans. This is why Russian active measures target Republicans more than Democrats.

    Ukraine has nothing more than fringe right-wingers who are being used by Russian propaganda to try and paint Ukraine's government as a fascist regime for the purpose of aiding Russia's destabilization of Ukraine and theft of their territory. It is secondarily useful in their efforts to radicalize people in the west, since no one wants to be associated with Neo Nazis, and it obviously helps Putin's Russia if westerners are made to believe that politicians who support Ukraine (and therefore oppose Putin's Russia) are working with such people. It's the same thing they've been doing in regards to Syria, spreading disinformation that American and other western forces are allied with radical Islamic terrorists there. It's wartime propaganda, and thanks to the internet we're all exposed to it to some degree in a way that was never possible for Russia or the Soviet Union in decades past.
     

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