Ukraine: Far-right activists mark 78th anniversary of Ukrainian SS division in capitel Kiev

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  1. zoom_copter66

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    You have some accurate pics of Yanuks party members hanging from lampposts throughout Kyiv.....since I don't recall seeing any of that. And you're probably just grandstanding as usual.

    Also this "minority" thing from Western Ukraine is total BS.....considering there were protests throughout Ukraine against Yanuk....in case you didn't see it.

    What attempted hit on Luka was there Jenny?.....if there was an attempt...Luka wouldn't be around right now would he.....considering most Belarussians don't support him,and lil Kremlin hobbits spin doctors are running the show in Minsk at the moment.:)
     
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    You would be speaking German
     
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    Ronstar Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Never forget the Nazi-Soviet Friendship Agreement of 1939.

    If the Soviets have showed some balls and resisted Nazi aggression rather than helping it, millions of lives would have been saved.

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    Ronstar Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    WRONG.

    most of these 100,000 were Mischlinge, which means they were not Jews under German or Jewish law. Regarless, many Jews who fought for Germany during WW1 were sent to concentration camps where they died.
     
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    Ronstar Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Wrong again. ONLY Germans could serve in the Wehrmacht, Luftwaffe and German Navy. Non-Germans were only allowed to serve in the ethnic Waffen-SS Units.
     
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    stone6 Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Not many European-Americans enjoy sitting around and talking about the genocide of Native Americans our ancestors either allowed or took part in with foreigners. So, it doesn't surprise me the the post-war Germans didn't want to discuss the Holacaust with you.
     
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    Your habit of deleting the bulk of other people's Posts is deliberately deceptive & confusing.

    The person who wrote: "The Nazis never racially segregated their troops. Blacks, Slavs, Asians, and Arabs fought shoulder-to-shoulder with Germans." was historian Veronica Clark who I suspect is better informed than you.

    The excerpt you deleted was:

    "Adolf Hitler’s Armed Forces: A Triumph for Diversity?"

    Veronica Clark

    https://www.inconvenienthistory.com/1/3/3102

    EXCERPTS " I ask those historians who still believe that Hitler and the Nazis were “white supremacists”: how do you account for the incredible degree of non-German and ethnic minority (i.e., 150,000 Jews and Jewish Mischlinge) collaboration during World War II? Again, some two million non-Germans helped the Nazis.

    The important thing to realize is that had the Nazis been as racist as most historians have argued, then they could not possibly have garnered the immeasurable level of support that they did. Even after Stalingrad; Spaniards, Slavs, Franks, and tens of- thousands of other non-Germans continued to fight for the Nazis on a volunteer basis. Frenchmen and Arab volunteers gave their lives in the final fight for the capital of Berlin in 1945. Hitler continued to allow thousands of Jewish men to serve, and many did so with incredible tenacity and valor. One has to call into question whether all of these Jewish men and other non-Germans were really as opposed to the Nazi regime as they have claimed after the fact. Their tenacity and determination suggests otherwise in many cases. The Jewish soldiers Bernhard Rogge, Helmuth Wilberg, Erhard Milch, and Ernst Prager come to mind.

    The Nazis never racially segregated their troops. Blacks, Slavs, Asians, and Arabs fought shoulder-to-shoulder with Germans.

    At least two million non-German foreigners and ethnic minorities served in Hitler’s armed forces at one point or another. Without foreign and non-German help, the Germans never would have had their Western defenses prepared in time for the Allied invasion. Let us think about two things here.

    Hitler’s Wehrmacht-Waffen SS combination was the most culturally, ethnically, and religiously diverse military force in Western history. In spite of this fact, we are all supposed to believe he was a hyper-racist (my own term) like some other Nazis."CONTINUED
     
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    ONLY Germans could and did serve in the Wehrmacht, Luftwaffe, etc.

    Non-Germans could serve in the ethnic Waffen SS Units.

    Facts are facts.
     
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    If Veronica Clark actually believes that Hitler and the Nazis were not white supremacists, than she is a clear ****ing liar.

    They believed that Germans were the master race, white Europeans (some of them) could work with them, while others like the Poles and Russians were to be enslaved or exterminated.

    Its sad how much lying these Nazi-lovers engage in.
     
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    Veronica Clark is a respected historian who has published several books and all you've got is slander.

    "When the debate is lost, slander becomes the tool of the loser" Socrates
     
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    LOLOLOL!!!!

    oh man, that's some funny stuff.
     
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    respected historians, don't write pro-Nazi revisionist lies.

    they also dont dress in Nazi uniforms. Honestly, she looks insane.

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    The sad facts are Ukrainian Nazis murdered more as 300,000 Jews and more Russians through WWII
    The more sad fact is western idiotic 'governments' still support Nazi trash with the money of taxpayers.
     
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    nope, the Nazis didn't kill anyone.

    just ask the Holocaust-deniers.

    :p
     
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    All Russians in Ukraine shall receive as gift AR-15 from the US to protect themselves from Ukrainian Nazis.

    AR - 15 is the only language which SS animals can understand

     
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    Hitler and Ukrainian Nazis are the trash of humanity which shall be finally flashed down the toilet.
    The fake 'state' Ukraine shall be parted between Poland, Hungary, Russia and Romania.
    And all SS rubbish imprisoned
     
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    I agree that the Nazis were the trash of humanity. All intelligent people agree on this,

    as to Ukraine being "fake", why is it fake but Czeckia, Slovakia, Belarus, Estonia, Latvia are not?
     
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    Because Ukraine lost its industry, is highly corrupted and all youth fleeing it in droves moving to the West Europe.
    Which commodities can offer Ukraine to humanity?
    Nothing because it's the beggar failed state.
    Any state which allows marches of SS animals is a failed state and deserves no support of civilized countries
     
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    I understand your hatred of all things Nazi, as they were truly evil people.

    But freedom of speech is important. When we ban one group, all groups are at risk.

    Which is what they are doing in Russia, which is clearly a Fascist state in all but name.
     
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    Black leather jackets were very fashionable at one time.

    Cultural supremacism has always been part of Western Europe - and that can quickly turn into a racial one as well, especially after suffering a humiliation like they did at the end of WWI.

    We almost did anyway. It lost out being our official language in Congress by 3 votes. Besides, who said English isn't a German language? Look, let's not knock the Germans, or our nation would never have achieved what it did.

    We were a combination of British religious and intellectual beliefs, (the universities were Seminaries), and German industriousness, (they came en masse). Others were able to contribute their talents and abilities to this country, only because of its British and German foundation.
     
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    we can never let it happen again
     
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    Very True - and it is not like Adolf arose out of a vacuum - he just took a very popular idea(s) at the time - distorted them -and took things to the extreme - at the right place - at the right time - with the right skill set.
     
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    if we only had abortion rights when Hitler was in utero, we could have avoided all of this.
     
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    Perhaps not - as Stalin was around .. and "whats his name" in Japan Hirohito ? but yes - on the abortion thread that refutes one off the poorer arguments .. not that any of them are particularly good..

    But - even if we aborted all 3 .. my point, was that Adolf did not arise out of a vacuum .. nor did Carrot Top - Reality TV gone wild.

    A whole lot of nations (or at least the Elite ) were on the Eugenics bandwagon being just one of the factors.
     
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    Of course Ukraine is fake because it consists of parts stolen from other nations. Thanks to the bastard Lenin, lands that were always part of Russia are now under the fascist junta in Kiev and like true Fascists, whoever is not willing to give up their heritage and language is being persecuted.

    Rather than federating and giving each part of Ukraine more rights so Ukraine can remain intact, which is what Putin did with the Republics in the Federation so that today over 60 languages are taught in schools, the Nazis want to kill off and eliminate any Russian who won't accept their own inferior culture and language.

    What a way to dumb down people. But then again isn't that what the elites in Washington want to maintain control? Aren't they doing it here as well?
    When it turns around and back fires on them - as it will, they'll have only themselves to blame.
     
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